|
SwiftVets.com Service to Country
|
View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
GenrXr Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 1720 Location: Houston
|
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:26 pm Post subject: Thoughts on the Duke rape allegations |
|
|
Couple of things stood out to me while watching the pundits on Fox news discuss the player’s innocence after DNA testing confirmed no linkage. First, why did the coach resign? The coach serves as a father figure for these boys away from home and knows them better than anyone. If the coach knows the boys to be innocent, surely he would not resign from his job and thus be in a weaker position to defend them. Was the coach pressured by the University to take a position which he felt was morally compromised? The alternative would be the coach is weak spined and turned his back at the first hint of heat. Highly doubt that.
Secondly, the woman who has made the accusation is the first known verified topless dancer who attends college in the history of this country. Well maybe not the first, but most surely the second or third. This shows motive for self improvement and making false accusations against the many and privileged is hardly the road one would take to improve them self.
What do I think happened? Most likely something very evil and heinous occurred and all the players knew of it and the ones not directly involved were complicit in its action. On playgrounds across the country this occurs on a daily basis. A bully decides to pick on someone weak then a few others join in on the fun while everyone else watches and does nothing. If within this group there were a person of very strong moral character and principled convictions the outcome might have been different. This individual would have stopped the others from carrying out the assault regardless of their personal safety. This is a very rare trait within people though as evidenced by Nazi Germany. Very few Germans stood up to Hitler and when they did such as Erwin Rommel they were executed.
The boys are to presumed innocent until proven guilty, yet this gut feeling is something wicked, very wicked took place. _________________ "An activist is the person who cleans up the water, not the one claiming its dirty."
"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to stand by and do nothing." Edmund Burke (1729-1797), Founder of Conservative Philosophy |
|
Back to top |
|
|
wonhyo Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 85
|
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: Duke Rape questions |
|
|
When I listened to the 911 call made the night of the incident, something struck me as odd. I can't repeat it verbatim, but the caller said, she and her friend were driving past this house, and while they were walking, these boys made racial remarks at them. Now, were they driving or walking? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Army_(Ret) Lt.Jg.
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 108
|
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:19 am Post subject: Racism 101 at Duke |
|
|
Duke LaCrosse rape a hoax?
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5408
Racism 101 at Duke
April 12th, 2006
The negative DNA tests in the alleged Duke University lacrosse team rape case raise the specter of yet another possible hate crime hoax. The timing of the case just before a local election for district attorney, racial and class polarization in Durham, North Carolina, and the heavy hand of on-campus feminism have all politicized the issue to an extraordinary degree. Justice has taken a back seat.
The sport of lacrosse does not usually earn front page headlines. But that changed with the racially-charged allegations of a black exotic dancer. The woman, who has not been identified publicly, claims she was gang raped by white lacrosse players at Duke University who had paid her and another stripper to perform at a party. She told police she was pulled into a bathroom, beaten, choked and raped by three white men who yelled racial slurs at her.
The reaction from the media, local politicians, school officials and black race activists was swift and predictable. Duke President Richard Brodhead announced he is canceling the rest of the lacrosse season. The nationally ranked team will forfeit the rest of their games. Coach Mike Pressler resigned. DNA samples were taken from 46 of the 47 team members (the one black player was not required to give a sample).
The Duke “Progressive Alliance” posted mug shots of the white players around campus with the headline “Please Come Forward.” Students held a “Take Back the Night” rally and banged pots and pans outside the house of President Brodhead and the house where the attack allegedly took place. The players moved out of the house out of concern for their safety.
Before the results of the DNA tests came back negative on Monday evening, most of the amateur detectives hyping the case had already convicted the whites. The general theme was that the alleged rapes represent “white skin privilege.”
“The issues here,” said Chandra Y. Guinn, director of the Mary Lou Williams Center for Black Culture, “go far deeper than a single incident. There are pockets of white privilege on this campus … .”
“There’s an embedded white supremacy here,” said Travis Simons, a Duke divinity student.
“For me, this is not simply a case of sexual violence or just a case of racism. It’s a case of racialized sexual violence, meaning if it had been a white woman in that room, it would not have gone down the same way,” claimed Mark Anthony Neal, an African Studies professor.
“Last weekend was Duke’s minority recruitment,” said local resident Betty Greene. “What a welcome for minority students to walk into this story. I’m trying not to call it racial terrorism, but that’s really what it is.”
Crying Wolf?
Not mentioned in most of the articles, protests, teach-ins and “dialogue” about the incident was the possibility that it could be a Tawana Brawley-type hoax. Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong was “very confident” that the rape occurred but has yet to file any charges. Nifong, who is facing the voters in 21 days for election to his office, and who is contemplating a run for mayor in the heavily black city of Durham, had said he will pursue the case even if the DNA results come back negative. Yesterday, in a community forum at historically black North Carolina Central University, the school attended by the accuser, he said: “My presence here means this case is not going away.”
Lawyers for the players have stood firm throughout the ordeal. Attorney Joe Cheshire says the whites will be owed an apology after the specifics of the case come out. If he believed his clients were guilty he would most likely have tried to cut deals to reduce the sentence (the three whites face a minimum sentence of 16 to 20 years if convicted).
Another defense attorney, Kerry Sutton, said that numerous e-mails written in the hours after the woman said she was attacked support the players’ claims that nothing happened that night. Sutton believes the woman fabricated her claim and “quickly got in over her head with the story she’s telling.”
Lawyers for the players also point to a 911 call that conveniently came in just minutes after the attack was said to have occurred. It came from a black woman who claimed someone at the party shouted racial slurs at her and a friend. Cheshire thinks the caller was the second stripper. She alternatively told police they were driving and walking past the house.
The white players have maintained their innocence all along. The only public statement by the players read:
“Any allegation that a sexual assault or rape occurred is totally and transparently false. The DNA results will demonstrate that these allegations are absolutely false.”
It has now been almost a month since the alleged attack. If the lacrosse players actually had witnessed a rape, it is likely that at least one among the 46 would have come forward by now, if only to cut a deal for himself.
The DNA test results seem to conclusively prove that the woman’s claim is a hoax. The police took DNA samples from all over the alleged victim’s body, including under her fingernails, and from her possessions, such as her cell phone and her clothes.
“They swabbed about every place they could possibly swab from her, in which there could be any DNA,” said Cheshire. Because DNA could come from not just bodily fluids but from skin contact, the absence of DNA evidence from the lacrosse team seems dispositive.
Hate Crime Hoaxes
Though not mentioned by the media, hate crime hoaxes are quite common in America, especially on college campuses. The Los Angeles Times claims there have been over 20 phony hate crimes on college campuses from 1997-2005, but even that number seems low.
The first and only serious study of hoax crimes was conducted in1995 by independent scholar Laird Wilcox. In a self-published booklet titled, Crying Wolf: Hate Crime Hoaxes in America, Wilcox documented hundreds of hoax crimes and analyzed who commits them and why. Wilcox found that blacks are the worst offenders when it comes to staging phony hate crimes. While some perpetrate hoaxes to get insurance money or to cover their own misdeeds, many, particularly on college campuses, stage them to generate sympathy for their racial agenda.
As someone who follows hate crime hoaxes, the Duke incident – and the response – is strikingly similar to recent hoaxes at other universities. The following are just a few example:
• During the 40th anniversary of the integration at Ole Miss, two black students found racial insults scrawled on the doors of their dorm rooms: “F**g Nigger” and “F**g Hoe [sic] Nigger.” Similar messages turned up in other locations across the campus. Students organized a “Say No to Racism” march, and race activists demanded “programs and procedures” to instill racial sensitivity. A spate of national news coverage commented on how little Ole Miss had changed in 40 years.
When the perpetrators were found to be black students, Ole Miss chancellor Robert Khayat made it clear there would be no criminal charges, even though the students caused over $600 worth of damage and harmed race relations at the school.
• When a hate crime was reported last year at Trinity International University near Chicago there was a flood of indignation on campus. Students at the mostly white school wore yellow shirts to symbolize solidarity with blacks who had received a stream of hate mail. Jesse Jackson spoke on campus. Over 40 students were evacuated to an unnamed hotel for their own safety and security was beefed up at the college. Counselors were made available and students held prayer vigils.
But when the culprit turned out to be Alicia Hardin, a black student who wanted to transfer out of Trinity to be closer to her friends, the story-and the campus outrage-faded away. University president Greg Waybright even announced that he felt “a sense of relief” because the incident was “resolved.” He warned that the hoax should not reflect on any particular ethnic group.($link)
• Also last year, students at Wooster College in Ohio awoke to find swastikas and racist messages written on dorm walls. Angry protestors raged against “typical white males” until the writers of the slurs turned out to be a group of lefty students led by a black studies major.
• A similar incident happened at the University of Louisville in 2004. Students endured racial graffiti and racist fliers passed out on cars. Protesters held rallies and handed a list of demands to U of L president Jim Ramsey. The incident quietly faded away when black students admitted to passing out the fliers as a “prank.”
The facts of the Duke case, coupled with the prevalence of hate crime hoaxes on college campuses, should have at least raised a few question marks. The fact that there were no real question raised by the media, academics, politicians or Duke administrators speaks volumes about racism in America. The white lacrosse players will certainly not receive the apology they are owed, and continue to remain in the DA’s crosshairs, as he trolls for votes among Durham’s black electorate.
Peter Bradley _________________ Peace is acheived through victory |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Fort Campbell Vice Admiral
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 896
|
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Most likely a secnario something like this.......................
The student was stripping on the side.
The party was an alcohol binge.
She went there to strip. They now have released photos showing her at the party.
She got drunk as well.
The first police officer to see her said that she was passed out cold drunk.
Who knows who she had sex with? She may not even know.
But it is a good opportunity to cry rape with the Duke laCrosse team; gain publicity; and thereby money.
Jesse Jackson has now said that he will pay for her college education.
Just my theory, but I find it very difficult to believe that if the Duke guys had down this that they would have left NO DNA. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Deuce Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 589 Location: FL
|
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
yep, so far the Score is:
Hoax - 1
Crime- 0
and, poignantly, it has all the smell of a 'left' campaign slogan for 2006.... On the heels of C Mckinney, et al. The left has already recruited the illegan aliens for their May Day celebration this year...looks like the 'race card' free pass for May Day is alive and well. Wonder who else will be 'recruited' between now and May 1!!!!
Deuce |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|