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shawa CNO
Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 2004
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: No Indictment of Rove in CIA-Leak Case |
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I expect the Left will go into major depression over this announcement.
For the last few weeks, they have been buzzing that a Rove indictment is imminent. Gee, I don't think they can handle the disappointment. Chris Mathews will probably have a total breakdown!!
National Review
Quote: | No Indictment of Rove in CIA-Leak Case
Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald makes a decision.
By Byron York
June 13, 2006, 6:44 a.m.
Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has informed top White House adviser Karl Rove that Rove will not face indictment in the CIA-leak investigation, National Review Online has learned. The word came yesterday, when Fitzgerald told Rove lawyer Robert Luskin that he, Fitzgerald, did not plan to seek charges against Rove. This morning, Luskin released a brief statement:
On June 12, 2006, Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald formally advised us that he does not anticipate seeking charges against Karl Rove.
In deference to the pending case, we will not make any further public statements about the subject matter of the investigation. We believe that the Special Counsel’s decision should put an end to the baseless speculation about Mr. Rove’s conduct.
Rove appeared five times before a grand jury investigating the CIA-leak case; the most recent was in April. Before appearing before the grand jury, Rove was interviewed by FBI agents assigned to the investigation. Fitzgerald’s inquiry, it appears, focused most intensely on the first two sessions — the FBI interview and the first grand-jury testimony.
The key question to be resolved by Fitzgerald was said to be whether to charge Rove in connection with his testimony regarding a brief July 11, 2003, conversation with Time magazine’s Matthew Cooper. In both his interview with the FBI and in his first grand jury appearance, Rove did not tell investigators about the conversation with Cooper. By the time Rove appeared for a second time before the grand jury, Rove had discovered evidence — an internal White House e-mail — showing that he did indeed talk to Cooper. Rove gave the evidence to Fitzgerald, who then questioned him about it at length.
Rove is thought to have testified that he simply did not remember the Cooper conversation until he discovered the e-mail. (Cooper himself described the talk as being about two minutes long and occurring right as Rove was leaving on vacation.) Supporting Rove’s contention was the fact that Rove, apparently, testified from the very beginning that he talked to columnist Robert Novak, which suggested he was not trying to hide his involvement in the case from Fitzgerald.
A decision by Fitzgerald — one way or the other — had been anticipated for months. There was widespread speculation that Rove might face charges for lying to Fitzgerald’s grand jury much like those filed by Fitzgerald last October against Lewis Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney’s former chief of staff. Now, it appears that will not happen. And so far, at least, no one has been charged with violating any of the underlying laws in the case — either the Intelligence Identities Protection Act or the Espionage Act.
Rove’s fate has been the subject of intense discussion among critics of the Bush administration. Perhaps foremost among them is former ambassador Joseph Wilson, whose wife, Valerie Plame Wilson, was the CIA employee at the center of the affair. In August 2003, Wilson vowed to pursue Rove vigorously, saying, “At the end of the day it’s of keen interest to me to see whether or not we can get Karl Rove frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs.” |
_________________ “I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. ‘Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death.” (Thomas Paine, 1776) |
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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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For those who may not have had the occasion to follow this, our own Lawrence O'Donnell was up to top of his addled head in predicting, wallowing in and promoting this non-event.
My dear Lawrence...enjoy your day.
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Schadow Vice Admiral
Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 936 Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: No Indictment of Rove in CIA-Leak Case |
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shawa wrote: | ..... Chris Mathews will probably have a total breakdown!! |
Yep. "Lardball with Chris Mathews" will be much deflated for a while, as will the indictment countdown weenies on the leftblogs.
Hehehehe.
Schadow
Edit: For a sample of the grief over this, go to Americablog and click on the "comments" link just under the story. _________________ Capt, 8th U.S. Army, Korea '53 - '54 |
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carpro Admin
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Just 1 month ago, this story was making the rounds and Bush haters were ecstatic:
How Accurate Was the 'Rove Indicted' Story?
By Marc Ash,
Mon May 15th, 2006 at 02:04:04 PM EDT :: Bush
On Saturday afternoon, we ran a breaking story titled, "Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators." We assumed that we were well ahead of the mainstream media and that we would be subsequently questioned. Right on both counts.
What everyone is asking right now is how accurate is the story? Has Rove in fact been indicted? The story is accurate, and Karl Rove's attorneys have been served with an indictment.
In short, we had two sources close to the Fitzgerald investigation who were explicit about the information that we published, and a former high-ranking state department official who reported communication with a source who had "direct knowledge" of the meeting at Patton Boggs. In both instances, substantial detail was provided and matched.
We had confirmation. We ran the story. _________________ "If he believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service." |
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Anker-Klanker Admiral
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 1033 Location: Richardson, TX
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Carpo, that Truthout link is most amusing, and educational. Everyone should at least make a quick scan of the comments following the article. Yeah, there's a lot of visitors to that site that must really be gnashing their teeth today!
If you read those comments, though, it becomes abundantly clear how very deranged the Hate Bush lefties are. And it doesn't take much imagination to understand why the truth about sKerry is never going to penetrate the gray matter of people like this. |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Good reminder, Carpro! (How soon we forget, hm? )
And Chris Mathews is just completely unhinged over this - seems to alternate between impotent, coming-unstuck fury and utter despondency.
Poor baby? _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother |
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dcornutt PO3
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:44 am Post subject: |
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David Schuster on Keith O's was another who went out on a limb with this and got caught.
But, as far as I've seen...they are mostly just moving around and beyond the point...since their own buds are pitching the questions.
The Truth Out site is a riot. There's more too!...hang on..let me pull the last entry:
Regarding Mr. Luskin's Statements
By Marc Ash,
Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 02:44:19 PM EDT :: Fitzgerald Investigation
(253 comments)
We are stunned by the magnitude of the reaction to the article we published yesterday morning. We have put our cards on the table. We invite Mr. Luskin to do the same.
To clarify: The entire basis for the information that "Rove has been cleared" comes from a verbal statement by Karl Rove's attorney. No one else confirms that. As Karl Rove's attorney Robert Luskin is bound to act - in all regards - in Rove's best interest. We question his motives.
Update [2006-6-14 18:53:27 by TruthOut]:This thread is now closed.
Then...the last one:
Standing Down on the Rove Matter
By Marc Ash,
Wed Jun 14th, 2006 at 06:52:40 PM EDT :: Fitzgerald Investigation
(11 comments)
Yesterday, most Mainstream Media organizations published reports about a letter supposedly received by Karl Rove's attorney Robert Luskin. As an example of the supposed letter's contents, TIME Magazine stated that, "Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald said or wrote, 'Absent any unexpected developments, he does not anticipate seeking any criminal charges against Rove.'"
Truthout of course published an article on May 13 which reported that Karl Rove had in fact already been indicted. Obviously there is a major contradiction between our version of the story and what was reported yesterday. As such, we are going to stand down on the Rove matter at this time. We defer instead to the nation's leading publications.
In that Mr. Luskin has chosen the commercial press as his oracle - and they have accepted - we call upon those publications to make known the contents of the communiqué which Luskin holds at the center of his assertions. Quoting only those snippets that Mr. Luskin chooses to characterize in his statements is not enough. If Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald has chosen to exonerate Mr. Rove, let his words - in their entirety - be made public.
Reporter Jason Leopold
Mr. Leopold did not act alone in his reporting of this matter. His work, sources and conclusions were reviewed carefully at each step of the process. There is no indication that Mr. Leopold acted unethically.
Please keep in mind that over the years we have reported on many examples of individuals being scapegoated in crisis situations by superiors seeking cover from controversy. Truthout, however, does not do scapegoats. And we stand firmly behind Jason Leopold.
The Confidentiality of Our Sources
As journalists, nothing is more critical to being able to report guarded facts than the guarantee of confidentiality we provide to our sources. Truthout has never compromised the identy of a confidential source. We will protect our sources on this story, as we have on every other story we have ever published.
Expect a more comprehensive accounting of this matter on Monday, June 19.
Marc Ash
Executive Director - Truthout
director@truthout.org
Read and discuss >>
So...it' appears that Mark Ash is both demanding that Rove "prove" he's not indicted..or going to be...BUT..continues to maintain that he should not have to divuldge his sources..just because his story was wrong. hahahaha. |
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Schadow Vice Admiral
Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 936 Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:12 am Post subject: |
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dcornutt wrote: | Reporter Jason Leopold
Mr. Leopold did not act alone in his reporting of this matter. His work, sources and conclusions were reviewed carefully at each step of the process. There is no indication that Mr. Leopold acted unethically.
Please keep in mind that over the years we have reported on many examples of individuals being scapegoated in crisis situations by superiors seeking cover from controversy. Truthout, however, does not do scapegoats. And we stand firmly behind Jason Leopold.
The Confidentiality of Our Sources
As journalists, nothing is more critical to being able to report guarded facts than the guarantee of confidentiality we provide to our sources. Truthout has never compromised the identy of a confidential source. We will protect our sources on this story, as we have on every other story we have ever published. |
These people, third-string "journalists" all, are apparently competing for the Mapes-Rather Award for The Most Outrageously Amateurish Attempt To Create A Story Out Of Nothing. They should place rather high in the voting.
Schadow _________________ Capt, 8th U.S. Army, Korea '53 - '54 |
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