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[Theresa Alwood]

As long as it takes. The next important question is....is there a politician who is out there who is willing to continue with the job at hand. We have no option but to win.
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[1991932]

Geez, Theresa, welcome back. It's been almost a year?

Your observation about our next President is right on the mark.

Unfortunately, only one political party seems up to the task. In reality, every patriotic and freedom-loving American should see the truth in your statement and insist that their chosen leaders promise to follow through.

I don't think you'll find many members of this forum who disagree with you. Many of us remember what it's like to be abandonned.
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[dusty]

Theresa is correct, the next president must continue the offensive. We really have no choice. And all we are really doing is effecting a delaying action of the inevitable.
It would take generations to change the mindset of the Muslim worldview if it were even possible. Which of course it isn't. Ishmael will never accept Isaac having the birthright and will forever seek to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth. And defeat any who would stand in the way of that goal.
Us.

And so is 1991932 correct.
I can't picture any of the Commiecrats with the possible exception of Leiberman filling that bill.

Good to see you back Theresa. Long time no hear from.

Dusty
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[LimaCharlie]

[Theresa Alwood]

Thanks guys. I do pop in every now and then...just read...swiftvets was a home for me during the election...it was nice to be with people who feel the way I do and understand what is at risk if we do not finish the job.

Seems like the average American does not realize that Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. The cost of our freedom is up to us. We can never put a price tag on our freedom...the minute we do that...we all loose...all of us...republican or democrat.
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[jalexson]

[BuffaloJack]

Iraq NEEDS to be 3 separate countries. The whole Iraq problems is rooted in the Versailles Treaty and the European Imperialism in place at the end of the First World War. In carving up the remnants of the Ottoman Empire and forcing the various Islamic factions to live together, the result is a region of the World destined to constant problems and regional conflict. The Sunnis, the Kurds and the Shiites will never (repeat NEVER) get along or trust one another. Until the policy makers see this, the USA is destined to play referee to a constantly bickering and battling group of people who will be forever in conflict.
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[jalexson]

[jalexson]

I thought about posting the following as a new thread, but since there is already an Iraq thread I'll post it here.

Football can teach us an important lesson. You greatly increase your chances of winning if you spend as much of the game as possible in your opponents territory - his end of the field.

It has been said that the goal in war is not to die for your country, but to make the other guy die for his country. An important secondary goal is to make him die IN his country.

We have a better chance of outlasting the terrorists if we fight in the countries they come from rather than our own country. The War on Terror is an endurance contest like the Cold War rather than a 100 yard dash like WWII. We won the Cold War because we outlasted the Soviet Union, not because we defeated it.

The recent claim that the invasion of Iraq has helped Osama bin Laden recruit terrorists ignores the fact that he wasn't having any trouble recruiting terrorists before the invasion of Iraq. He apparently could have hijacked more planes on 9/11 if he had wanted to.

Before 9/11 Osama used the presence of American troops in Saudi Arabia to recruit terrorists [the troops were there to contain Saddam Hussein]. Raids on his camps in Afghanistan captured a large number of terrorists in training. Osama then used the presence of our troops in Afghanistan for recruitment.

Iraq has forced Osama to be less selective in his recruitment. He no longer takes the precautions in choosing terrorists he did before we invaded Iraq. He is more likely to end up with recruits who will make mistakes that cause the death or capture of him or his commanders. One of the new recruits might even be more likely to seek a reward for killing or capturing al Qaeda leaders.

The presence of American troops in Iraq forces terrorists to either allow us to establish our form of government there or die trying to prevent it. Terrorists fighting in Iraq have to face our well armed professional military personnel instead of our unarmed civilian population at home.
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"That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoe making and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poor house."
-- Mark Twain

[Deuce]

Wow,
Theresa, jalexson, all,

You are all more eloquent than I could ever be, but on Iraq, our guru of Statesmanship, Henry Kissinger, said my sentiments exactly, recently:

"Victory is the only Exit Strategy"!

kinda Reaganesque, isn't it!
Deuce

[Theresa Alwood]

Dont ya wonder why half of the American population just does not get it. Kind of scares me and wonders what will happen if the republican party looses the senate...first order of business I see the democrats trying to do is try to impeach President Bush. We have heard so much about how he has mislead the American people...I just do not understand how people can not look past the fact that we are in Iraq and regardless of if you agree it was wrong or right we are there and must do everything to win this war. I tell people at work since I live in a Blue State that you get what you vote for and if my chance the republican's loose I will just tell them you voted for it so quit whining. I will have no sympathy, nor cut them any breaks. I just do not understand why the republican party often sits back and does nothing to fight for their way of life. I am proud to be an American first, conservative second and a republican third.
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[jalexson]

Consider what can happen after the fall of a tyrant.
After the fall of the French monarchy in the late 18th Century, France suffered from rule by the guillitine and then the coming of Napoleon who conquered western Europe into Russia.

After the fall of the Russian monarchy during WWI a long period of anarchy and civil war followed with Lenin eventually gaining control of the country and establishing a dictatorship.

The fall of the Shah of Iran in the 1970's led to the takeover of the American embassy and a war with Iraq.

Iraq has various individuals who would like to become another Saddam Hussein. Withdrawal of American forces before Iraqis have established a stable government could eventually force us to send troops back into the region to fight another imperialistic tyrant.
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"That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoe making and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poor house."
-- Mark Twain

[Deuce]

jalexson,

Your absolutely spot-on reasoning shows that our Congress has "forgotten history" and is doomed to repeat it!

[BuffaloJack]

[jalexson]