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Me#1You#10
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 Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: "Vets' Ad For Lieberman Called `Swift-Boating'" |
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Yet another MSM-assisted attack on SVPT (Pazniokas doesn't even mince words in this one - see highlight) and an indication of just how pervasive and profound in the leftist psyche was the SVPT message. "Vets for Freedom", to my knowledge, has never even uttered the word "Lamont", yet his representatives trot out the ever-ready "swiftboat pejorative" in an attempt to diminish (in their own muddled thinking) the "Vets for Freedom" positive message of support for Joe Lieberman...and the Lieberman campaign is telling them to put it where the sun don't shine. 
This pejorative application is an indication that the target of any supposed "swiftboat" villification is a force to be reckoned with and, most probably, deserves all the support we can muster.
You can view the ad at the "Vets for Freedom" website.
| Quote: | Vets' Ad For Lieberman Called `Swift-Boating'
September 7, 2006
By MARK PAZNIOKAS, Courant Staff Writer
The ad seems innocuous enough: Four Connecticut veterans appear on the screen to thank Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman for his support of the war in Iraq.
But Democratic Senate nominee Ned Lamont's campaign Wednesday compared the new television spot to the notorious "swift boat" ads that smeared John Kerry during the 2004 presidential campaign.
Lamont campaign chairman George Jepsen said the content of the ad is less noteworthy than the identity of the group behind it: Vets for Freedom, which is advised by former aides to Lieberman and President Bush.
"What this shows is the extent to which, once again, the Bush administration and the far right are backing the Lieberman candidacy," Jepsen said.
Standing with 11 Connecticut veterans, including retired National Guard Brig. Gen. James Throwe of South Windsor, Jepsen called on the Lieberman campaign to renounce Vets for Freedom and stop "the swift-boating of Ned Lamont."
Tammy Sun, a spokeswoman for the Lieberman campaign, said Lieberman was grateful for support of Connecticut troops in the Vets for Freedom ad and saw nothing wrong with the commercial.
"This is clearly not an attack ad. And only the Lamont campaign could distort a positive ad like this one into something sinister," Sun said. "If it was an attack ad, then we obviously would not condone that and would take steps to try to stop it."
Vets for Freedom is spending $60,000 to air the commercial Wednesday and Thursday on Connecticut broadcast and cable stations, said Wade Zirkle, an Iraq veteran and director of the group.
Hartford Courant - cont'd |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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David Horowitz was on Ingraham's with a guest host discussing his new book about Soros' 527 octopi. A caller said it was unfair to single out Soros because he was no different than the Swift Boats. Both men went into a spirited defense of the Swifties contrasting the contributor base for each and the narrow aim of the Swifties to have Kerry release his military records which they pointedly observed had still not happened.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Now even Rush is using the "swiftboating" term in a derogatory way.
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shawa
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I heard Rush's opening, using 'swiftboating' in referencing the WaPo article exposing Murtha's ethical issues. He said "Hah, the Washington Post is swiftboating Jack Murtha"!
Rush was not using 'swiftboating' as derogatory. Rather, he was using it in it's true meaning--to expose the TRUTH, just what the SBVT did.
'Swiftboating' as a derogatory term is the Left's definition--to "unfairly smear".
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Anker-Klanker
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Shawa, correction please:
| Quote: | | 'Swiftboating' as a derogatory term is the Left's definition--to "unfairly smear". |
should be corrected to:
| Quote: | | 'Swiftboating' as a derogatory term is the Left's definition--to "expose the truth". |
The Left has built such a fragile house of cards whose very foundation is so full of lies, distortions, misrepresentations, etc., that their biggest fear is exposure of the truth. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| It's understandable that the true meaning of "swiftboating" can only be adequately defined by those who comprehend and adhere to the truth. |
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shawa
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| Quote: | | It's understandable that the true meaning of "swiftboating" can only be adequately defined by those who comprehend and adhere to the truth. |
Exactly right, Tobette.
Jack wrote:
| Quote: | | Now even Rush is using the "swiftboating" term in a derogatory way. |
Rush was NOT using it in a derogatory way. He was delighted at the WaPo "exposing the truth" about Murtha. Thus using the term "swiftboating" in it's true meaning.
This is the Washington Post article.
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To the libs, nothing is true if it does not support thier ideas or opinions. To the open minded lefties you are either evil, or a liar if you don't agree with them. You can only be open minded if you do agree with them. So, naturally the SwiftVets must be evil. I say keep up the good work! The truth will prevail!
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Anker-Klanker
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Shawa, thanks for that link - it's an interesting read (I really never thought I'd see the day when this kind of information was exposed to light, and isn't it just too coincidental that it wasn't exposed until after the election!).
What has me terribly puzzled is why CREW - a George Soros funded organization, and who was in the middle of the Foley scandal - is so actively involved in exposing Murtha's past. Maybe I can understand Soros and CREW not liking Murtha either, but why would they do it in such a way to bring Pelosi into it? Hmmmm....
P.S. I agree with Rush. Murtha was swiftboated - as we define the term. |
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I suppost that to a Leftist the terms "Boogy Man" and "Swiftboat Vet" are synonymous.
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For those who care about nuance  , it's interesting to compare the same story as told by the WaPo (Shawa's link above), and by CNN.
WaPo looks like it's in Hoyer's (and Soros'?) camp, while CNN seems to be in Murtha's camp. When MSM starts choosing sides in the intra-Democratic squabbles, the truth might finally start coming out. |
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Good man Anker Klanker! I've often thought so myself. YEAYESSSSSSSSSS! doin' muh best Al Pachino dance, "Oh Yea baby!".
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Anker-Klanker said:
| Quote: | | What has me terribly puzzled is why CREW - a George Soros funded organization, and who was in the middle of the Foley scandal - is so actively involved in exposing Murtha's past. Maybe I can understand Soros and CREW not liking Murtha either, but why would they do it in such a way to bring Pelosi into it? Hmmmm.... |
Probable Answer:
George Soros owns the Democratic Party now. And thanks to McCain-Feingold he has a plethora of 527's to control the message. He is the puppetmaster who pulls all the strings. He has to rein in Murtha and Pelosi because they tend to screw up the message.
And CREW is his vehicle for putting the hurt on those he wants to get out of his way. He has funded Harold Ickes and Hillary's incredible data-mining project (supposedly a simple voter ID operation to target votes, but it may rival AbleDanger with the info they can collect on anyone they want to compromise and control or destroy).
Soros is evil, a billionaire who is playing a game with our country. He wants to destroy America as we know it, and replace it with an America of his making. What better way to accomplish this than by controlling our Congress and eventually our Presidency and policy-making (read that an equally evil President Hillary in 08) while he remains in the background pulling the strings.
John Burtis is a respected journalist, a wordsmith whose articles are usually right on the mark, often amusing and fun to read. They are usually not as scary as these ones I am linking to.
| Quote: | George Soros - Buying The Democrats
The wages of Soros
by John Burtis
Thursday, October 12, 2006
There is a mistaken notion afoot in our cherished land that you are actually voting for the Democratic Party when you get tired of the noisome and redolent Republicans and their growing problems with the national budget, their cowardice in the face of Foley, and their retreat in the face of the latest spate of media attacks, and switch your allegiance.
Yup, even the new Democrats, Bush baiters, folks who read the New York Times from cover to cover and believe its outlandish fabrications, and the rest of the robots who'll pull the levers and press the touch screens next month, believe they'll be voting for the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Charlie Wrangel, Chuck Schumer, and Russ Feingold.
Well, they are in a way. But not really. Not any more.
Today, anybody that votes for a national Democrat is no longer voting for that hopelessly stodgy old party of thoroughly corrupt hacks, or even the sleek new dandified Party dedicated to the destruction of President Bush, America, free speech, education, traditional families, Christianity, effective education, and free market capitalism.
No, a vote cast today is a vote for the "owners" of the new Democratic Party. It's a vote for the consolidation of power for the very folks who hold the purse strings, the leases, the deep pockets, and those who craft the ideology, create the 527's, fund the PR machines, write the pungent political programs, and provide the men with the means to hold the failing heart of the Party in hock.
Today it is clear that a ballot cast for whichever of the two views of the Democrats you choose, is a vote for one man--George Soros--and his personal political machines.
Right after the 2004 elections were over, and once the massively Soros funded MoveOn,Org had flexed it considerable economic and organizing muscles, its director, Eli Pariser explained their relationship to the new Democratic Party, "Now it's our party, we bought it, we own it..." They did, too --outright, with a discount for cash. And all the big names you see on TV today are just Mr. Soros' cheap concubines.
During the 2004 election cycle, the progressive Shadow Party--the Soros funded 527s--of which MoveOn.Org is just one of many similar creations, pumped some 300 million dollars into the dusty Democratic coffers--far more than could ever be raised by party functionaries.
Picture the hopelessly ill Democratic donkey of today, under Howard Dean's completely disastrous fiscal stewardship, as it lies in intensive care, with flashing lights, hanging bottles, machines going, catheters galore, and nurses all around.
See the family gathered in the waiting room. Pick out Brother Bill Clinton, his sobbing wife Hillary, Uncle John Kerry pontificating to all, and Aunt Nancy Pelosi, Cousin Ted Kennedy, as they crowd the dying beast. Then watch shirttail relatives like Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer, Jimmy Carter, as they rub their hands together unctuously, hoping for a mention in the will or for a bigger familial role in things when the patient finally passes away. Then find the fractious inchoate bumpkins coming in late, with Honest John Murtha, Harold Ford, Jr., and Jane Harman bringing up the rear.
But the doctor, the leading specialist, George Soros arrives late, amid a lot of fanfare, with the sounds of pagers going off, cell phones ringing, and a large number of retainers in tow.
He stops, listens quickly to the ailing donkey with his stethoscope, turns to the family, now gathered around the room, and speaks crisply with a slight European accent.
"I can fix the old mule. I will pump the old boy full of money--money you don't have. But you must follow my instructions and do exactly as I say..."
And thanks to George Soros and billions of dollars, his 527s--MoveOn,Org, Open Society Institute, Democracy Alliance, Campaign for America's Future, Center for American Progress, America Coming Together and the Media Fund--have come to be known as the Shadow Party of the Democratic Party, and its saviors. They are all designed to raise enormous amounts of money to directly circumvent the strictures placed on the First Amendment by the McCain-Feingold finance folderol and have usurped the new Democratic Party in everything but name.
More recently, another Soros front organization, CREW...... |
Cont'd at: http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/burtis101206.htm
Be sure to click his LINKS in the article: Hillary's data-mining operation
and David Horowitz' Discover the Networks.
Pretty amazing but it all points to what we are witnessing today.
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