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jalexson
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| LewWaters wrote: | | Wing Wiper wrote: | | Hopefully, we're in this for the long haul. |
Since our enemies are in it for the long haul, we sure better be as well. |
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greasepaint
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Joined: 10 Aug 2004
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Location: Texas
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Iraq is a crazy-quilt country, thrown together
in 1920, by Winston Churchill.
only Saddam's reign of terror,
held the country together.
I suppose its nice that
the Sunni hegemeny is gone.
Without terror, the three groups won't
want each other. What to do now?
The Shia and Kurds want to be independent.
For these 80% of the current Iraq's people,
they want the oil-less Sunni-Arabs to beat it.
What to do?
If Turkey or S.A. want influence, I suggest they pay for it.
I just don't understand how leaders from
Kurds or Shia can give some of their
oil away. IMO, these leaders should/will
be killed by the people they have betrayed.
If I saw an easy solution, I would say so.
Tribal leaders did not get to be leaders by
piety, they murdered their way to the top,
just like fictional Klingons or real life
leaders of the former Soviet Union.
I don't understand how you can impose a
representative-democracy on a
'''country???''' whos people are collectively
members of numerous groups that resemble,
what in the Western world would be called
organized crime. more later |
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LewWaters
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Joined: 18 May 2004
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Location: Washington State
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| greasepaint wrote: | | If I saw an easy solution, I would say so. |
Where has the struggle for freedom and democracy ever been easy?
No one can impose democracy on anyone else, we can only give them the chance to embrace or reject it.
Freedom isn't free.
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| greasepaint wrote: | | Without terror, the three groups won't want each other. What to do now? |
Persevere, as is/was our commitment and now obligation, until an elected government is capable, by force if necessary, of defending the institutionalization of its nascent form of government whatever form that might ultimately take.
The rewards of a stable and democratic Iraq are tectonic in scale and would reap enormous benefits to the long-term stabilization of the region, well worth the generational commitment and sacrifice it will require. |
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