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fortdixlover
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 Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: Kerry: Concentration Camps are good for people! |
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Worse than "No Bloodbath after Vietnam Pullout", did you hear the soundbites on Rush Limbaugh's program today where Kerry said he's "met many people who spent time in Vietnamese re-education camps and they're doing great?"
Concentration Camps are good for people, according to Hanoi John!
I thought he could not sink lower in intellectual buffoonery, but I was wrong. I think we need to rename him "Black Hole John" ... there seems no limit to just how far he can sink under the weight of infinite gravitational stupidity.
-- FDL
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: Kerry: Concentration Camps are good for people! |
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| fortdixlover wrote: | | I thought he could not sink lower in intellectual buffoonery, but I was wrong. |
He keeps making me wrong on exactly the same count, FDL. 
Who is he talking to? I really think he believes that the country is listening to him - that what he says is persuasive and in some way relevant.
I don't even know of any moonbats who are still listening to him!
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LewWaters
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Kerry is only engaging in the same rhetoric they displayed as they started denying they spit on us when we returned. Even when proven wrong on that account, they just changed the ctiteria for proof. They di the same as they started denying Hanoi Jane had any real effect on the Troops or that she even engaged in the activities we know she did.
Kerry and the entire left desires to once again lull the sheeple's senses so as to not notice much of what they are pulling.
As has been repeated often by Dictators, despots and just plain old bad people, "A lie told often enough becomes the truth."
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fortdixlover
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| LewWaters wrote: |
As has been repeated often by Dictators, despots and just plain old bad people, "A lie told often enough becomes the truth." |
That was pre-Internet.
The Internet has changed the rules of informational warfare and is taking "control of the narrative" from the left. And the internet is still in its infancy.
Efforts like the Swiftvets and their use of the Internet are just the beginning.
-- FDL
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BuffaloJack
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| LewWaters wrote: | | "A lie told often enough becomes the truth." |
That quote is attributed to Joseph Goebbels.
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fortdixlover
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Leave it to Taranto to issue the definitive Kerry put down:
| James Taranto - Opinionjournal.com wrote: | 'It Didn't Happen'
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110010372
We suppose it was inevitable: Four and a half years after Congress authorized the liberation of Iraq, some observers are comparing the situation there to Vietnam, where America lost a war after its will faltered. It turns out at least one congressman actually served in Vietnam, so he ought to be particularly qualified to help us determine the lessons of that conflict for this one.
Meet John Kerry, junior senator from Massachusetts. Some say he looks French, others call him haughty. But everyone agrees on one thing: He served in Vietnam.
After returning from a tour of duty that lasted an astonishing four months, Kerry also became an antiwar activist. In 1971 Kerry testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that the Vietnamese were a simple people, too simple to care about freedom or oppression:
We found most people didn't even know the difference between communism and democracy. They only wanted to work in rice paddies without helicopters strafing them and bombs with napalm burning their villages and tearing their country apart.
Kerry's side prevailed. In 1973 the U.S. withdrew its troops from Vietnam, and in 1975 Congress, its Democratic majority expanded by the post-Watergate election of 1974, voted to cut off aid to the South Vietnamese government. That year Saigon fell to the communists.
What happened then? Not much, according to Kerry, quoted in the Chicago Tribune:
"We heard that argument over and over again about the bloodbath that would engulf the entire Southeast Asia, and it didn't happen," Kerry said, dismissing the charge out of hand as he argued that the American presence only makes the situation worse every day.
In 2001, California's Orange County Register published an investigation of communist re-education camps in postwar Vietnam:
To corroborate the experiences of refugees now living in Orange County, the Register interviewed dozens of former inmates and their families, both in the United States and Vietnam; analyzed hundreds of pages of documents, including testimony from more than 800 individuals sent to jail; and interviewed Southeast Asian scholars. The review found:
* An estimated 1 million people were imprisoned without formal charges or trials.
* 165,000 people died in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam's re-education camps, according to published academic studies in the United States and Europe.
* Thousands were abused or tortured: their hands and legs shackled in painful positions for months, their skin slashed by bamboo canes studded with thorns, their veins injected with poisonous chemicals, their spirits broken with stories about relatives being killed.
* Prisoners were incarcerated for as long as 17 years, according to the U.S. Department of State, with most terms ranging from three to 10 years.
* At least 150 re-education prisons were built after Saigon fell 26 years ago.
* One in three South Vietnamese families had a relative in a re-education camp.
According to John Kerry, "it didn't happen."
Things were even worse in Cambodia, as the Christian Science Monitor reported in 2005:
When the Khmer Rouge victoriously entered Phnom Penh 30 years ago, many people greeted the rebels with a cautious optimism, weary from five years of civil war that had torn apart their lives and killed hundreds of thousands of Cambodians. . . .
During the nearly four years following that day--April 17, 1975--Cambodia was radically transformed. . . .
Everyday freedoms were abolished. Buddhism and other forms of religious worship were banned. Money, markets, and media disappeared. Travel, public gatherings, and communication were restricted. Contact with the outside world vanished. And the state set out to control what people ate and did each day, whom they married, how they spoke, what they thought, and who would live and die. "To keep you is no gain," the Khmer Rouge warned, "To destroy you is no loss."
In the end, more than 1.7 million of Cambodia's 8 million inhabitants perished from disease, starvation, overwork, or outright execution in a notorious genocide.
But don't worry. According to John Kerry, "it didn't happen."
Last week, as we noted, Kerry's colleague Barack Obama opined that genocide in Iraq would be preferable to America's continued presence there. But John Kerry has shown the way. If genocide, or some lesser horror, does occur in the wake of a U.S. retreat, Obama can simply assert: "It didn't happen."
Prominent Democratic officeholders are willing to deny or countenance crimes against humanity in order to justify a popular political position. Doesn't this shock the conscience of Democrats? |
No, it clearly doesn't shock their conscience. Especially not Mr. Kerry's, who intoned that he "knows people who spent time in the re-education camps, and they're doing great."
-- FDL
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