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shawa
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 Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:10 am Post subject: Rush Limbaugh Vs. The Real Phonies |
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| Quote: | Rush Limbaugh Vs. The Real Phonies
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
Posted Tuesday, October 02, 2007 4:20 PM PT
Congress: The anti-war left is trying to slime a major conservative pundit, but Rush Limbaugh was right about the left's "phony soldiers," and Kerry, Murtha, Durbin et al. have called our troops far worse.
Macbeth, in this case, is not the name of a Shakespearean tragedy, but rather the name of one of the "phony soldiers" Limbaugh spoke of in a recent radio broadcast.
Jesse Adam Macbeth was a hero of leftist blogs after he claimed in 2005 to have been awarded a Purple Heart for his service in Iraq that he said included slaughtering innocent civilians in a Fallujah mosque.
Iraq Veterans Against The War and other leftist groups trumpeted his charges as proof we were no better than Saddam Hussein.
When his true discharge papers were released, they contradicted his story. They said Macbeth was kicked out of the Army after six weeks at Fort Benning, Ga., in 2003 because of his "entry-level performance and conduct." He didn't serve in Iraq. He didn't win a Purple Heart. And neither he nor any other U.S. soldier massacred civilians in a mosque.
Like Dan Rather's phony story about George Bush and the National Guard based on documents proven to be forgeries, the anti-war left wanted Macbeth's story to be true. The motive in both cases was to slime the president and those who defend his policies.
It was Limbaugh's "phony soldiers" comment that has caused Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and others to call for the conservative commentator's head. But Reid & Co. had no problem with the MoveOn.org ad sliming a genuine soldier and hero who has served his country valiantly, Gen. David Petraeus.
Petraeus was the victim of the "Gen. Betray Us" ad MoveOn.org placed in the New York Times, an ad lefties in the Senate including Reid refused to vote to condemn.
While Limbaugh exposed the left's exploitation of a phony, the likes of Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., are free to slander the Marines who defended themselves against a jihadist ambush in the Iraqi town of Haditha, claiming they had "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Sounds like the phony charges Macbeth made, doesn't it?
No one has been found guilty in the Haditha incident, and there has been no proof of innocent civilians being murdered. Several of the Marines have been found innocent as the case has unraveled. But is Murtha condemned by his colleagues or asked to apologize?
Sen. John Kerry once told Bob Schieffer on CBS' "Face the Nation" that "there is no reason that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women . . . ." This was a more modest reprise of his post-Vietnam charges that U.S. troops had raped, tortured and pillaged in the tradition of Genghis Khan.
Then there's the famous utterance by Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., after the incident at Saddam's Abu Ghraib prison: "We now learn that Saddam's torture chamber (has) reopened under new management."
Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., once said of our prisoner of war camp at Guantanamo that "describing what Americans had done to prisoners under our control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by the Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime — Pol Pot or others — that had no concern for human beings."
Limbaugh's hypocritical critics aren't concerned about the demeaning of our troops in Iraq. They want to demean those who support our war on terror, whether in Iraq or the broadcast booth.
Despite their efforts, we will know the truth, and the truth will keep us free. |
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how do you shut him up?
“This disgusting attack from Rush Limbaugh, cheerleader for the chicken-hawk wing of the far Right, is an insult to American troops. In a single moment on his show, Limbaugh managed to question the patriotism of men and women in uniform who have put their lives on the line and many who died for his right to sit safely in his air conditioned studio peddling hate.” —Sen. John “phony soldier” Kerry, on Rush’s comments condemning another phony soldier for lying about serving in Iraq
http://patriotpost.us/pub/07-40_Chronicle-print.htm
hey kerry, if you read this give me a call. i'm beggin ya |
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| powsmias wrote: | how do you shut him up?
“This disgusting attack from Rush Limbaugh, cheerleader for the chicken-hawk wing of the far Right, is an insult to American troops. In a single moment on his show, Limbaugh managed to question the patriotism of men and women in uniform who have put their lives on the line and many who died for his right to sit safely in his air conditioned studio peddling hate.” —Sen. John “phony soldier” Kerry, on Rush’s comments condemning another phony soldier for lying about serving in Iraq
http://patriotpost.us/pub/07-40_Chronicle-print.htm
hey kerry, if you read this give me a call. i'm beggin ya |
Well we better get use to this kind of news and gotcha tactics against conservatives and Republicans. After all a Clinton wants to be president. They are masters of dirty tricks, political spin, and down right gestapo tactics. Hillary wants to be president so people will be ruined so she can stop over them. I would not doubt that some bodies will be the result of such tactics. Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion from observing the Clinton administration for 8 years. |
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shawa
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Redstate has a petition up to support Rush.
Here's the link to sign it:
http://www.standwithrush.com/process.asp
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FYI
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200710/NAT20071005a.html
Government Investigating More Than 60 'Phony Soldier' Cases
By Fred Lucas
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
October 05, 2007
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(CNSNews.com) -The federal government is currently conducting more than 60 "stolen valor" investigations of individuals suspected of making false claims about their military records, according to the Department of Veteran's Affairs, and about 30 people nationwide have been arrested in the past year for crimes related to falsifying a military record.
Stolen valor typically occurs when someone falsifies documents or produces medals and awards from the military they didn't earn in order to qualify for veterans benefits.
Jeffrey Sullivan, the U.S. attorney in the Western District of Washington, prosecuted Jesse Macbeth of Tacoma, Wash., in the past year as well as five others who falsely claimed heroic military service.
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| Quote: | | Stolen valor typically occurs when someone falsifies documents or produces medals and awards from the military they didn't earn in order to qualify for veterans benefits. |
OR qualify for 'increased' veterans benefits....case in point the Mayor of Atlantic City, NJ has been alledged to have collected an additional $25,000 in VA benefits over the years by claiming a Combat Infantryman Badge w/ 2 Bronze Stars that apparently did not show on the 'official' DD214. The mayor is not a per se phony soldier...he served honorably...just got around to lying about it late in life for no good reason. |
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| In connection with this discussion is an excellent article by Denis Keohane on the American Thinker website titled " Investigate the Winter Soldier Investigation." He goes into the entire history of these "phony soldiers" and it all dates back to the Winter Soldier Investigation. It is a must-read and he urges a full investigation be opened into that mess! |
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| Navy wife wrote: | | It is a must-read and he urges a full investigation be opened into that mess! |
NW, read into the following quote what you will, but I'd be willing to wager that something is in the offing for Kerry's senate '08 campaign.
Kerry, ever the opportunist that he is, is working himself into a lather right now trying to become the "point man" of the anti-Iraq war defeatists. It is difficult to imagine that his re-election campaign wouldn't generate some interest and receptiveness to an examination of Kerry's track record in that regard.
Kerry scrupulously avoided "John Kerry, anti-war hero" during campaign 2004 (the VVAW was MIA by design). As "John Kerry, war hero" didn't fare so well, I would expect that "JK,AWH" will be an even tougher sell.
| Quote: | Little wonder Kerry and his followers wanted to sue us into silence! But, we prevailed. We successfully defended against each of those lawsuits, all have now been withdrawn. And, we will not remain silent any longer.
Our research into the Vietnam War, most especially, those individuals and organizations responsible for creating the completely false history of Vietnam, is voluminous, factual and compelling. We have amassed a virtual library of records, documents and eyewitness testimony that proves, conclusively, the popular history of Vietnam is pure bunk, propaganda.
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Navy wife
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Great quote from Col. Day!!
Now, wouldn't it be just dandy if Kerry had all this thrown in his face during his campaign for re-election!! What can we all do for his opponent?? |
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Me#1You#10
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| Navy wife wrote: | | Now, wouldn't it be just dandy if Kerry had all this thrown in his face during his campaign for re-election!! What can we all do for his opponent?? |
Here's a start...
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Me#1You#10
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| Quote: | Social approval is a powerful incentive, but social disapproval can be a powerful disincentive. The willingness to accept the worst about any group of people because of who they are without regard to normal and required standards of proof is simply bigotry. When Murtha accused the Marines of cold blooded murder, it was bigotry. When the editors of The New Republic accepted Scott Thomas Beauchamp's fantasies without verification, it was because the claims fit their bigotry. When the AP published Massey's fraudulent claims even when their own embedded reporter could have debunked them it was bigotry. When three decades and more ago people spat on our veterans and called them babykillers, just as today when others call them killbots and terrorists, it is bigotry.
And because this is bigotry enabled by even the most powerful and influential in our society, it needs to be investigated at it root. That means Congress has to revisit that WSI testimony in their Congressional Record and find out the truth, the whole truth and make it public. That's what was called for at the time, and that is what needs still to be done.
While it would seem unlikely that a Democratic Congress would do so, there are those Democrats who do care about the military, including Senators Lieberman and Webb. It would be most interesting to see the reaction of Senator Kerry to opening an investigation on that front.
Its past due, and we owe it now to two generations of soldiers and veterans. |
Webb re-opening this "investigation" is a long shot. But Lieberman? Hmmmmm.
BTW, GREAT commentary Navy Wife...thanks for the post. |
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