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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: "Giuliani faces 9/11 backlash" |
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Kerry toady Stephen Braun of the LA Times (one of the "chosen 3" gatekeepers for Kerry's military records you'll remember) dabbles in some "wishful thinking" propaganda in an attempt to resuscitate the now comatose "Firefighter's Union Boss" wannabe "swiftboating" of Giuliani...
Quote: | Giuliani faces 9/11 backlash
Some New York firefighters who lost sons in the attack plan to take on the former mayor in GOP primary states
By Stephen Braun
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
December 19, 2007
WASHINGTON -- In an effort reminiscent of the bitter "Swift Boat" campaign during the 2004 presidential race, a group of New York firefighters who lost sons in the Sept. 11 World Trade Center attacks is organizing a political committee to take on former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani in Republican primary states.
(ed: Mr. Braun fantasizes on the wonders that an effective liberal version of SVPT might portend...not that he thinks "swiftboating" is a GOOD thing )
A leader of the 9/11 Firefighters and Families group met Tuesday with union leaders and political consultants, readying plans to set up a tax-exempt committee that would fund appearances and a media drive against Giuliani.
Jim Riches, a New York deputy fire chief whose firefighter son was killed during the attack, said the group aimed to raise doubts about the central premise of Giuliani's presidential campaign -- his leadership role on Sept. 11. "If we have to follow him around all 2008 we'll do it," Riches said.
(ed: With all due respect to Mr. Riches' loss, his wannabe "swiftboat" campaign, despite Braun's propagandizing, suffers from the lack of one essential element...TRUTH.)
Lauded as "America's Mayor" for his blunt talk and compassion after the attacks, Giuliani's political stock soared, and he built a multimillion-dollar consulting group emphasizing his leadership skills.
(ed: ...and pisses you off Braun?)
"A majority of firefighters believe that Rudy was a great leader on 9/11," said Howard Safir, who ran the New York Fire and Police departments under Giuliani and now heads First Responders for Rudy, a group affiliated with Giuliani's campaign.
But the former New York mayor's frequent references to Sept. 11 on the campaign trail have infuriated Riches and about 20 activists who lost firefighter sons. The New Yorkers blame Giuliani for decision-making failures that they say contributed to the deaths.
(ed: Could this manufactured smear be more clear?)
After protesting near Giuliani fundraising events in New York to little fanfare, they now plan to raise their voices in Florida, South Carolina and other primary states seen as essential to Giuliani's path to the GOP nomination. "When he announced his plans to run for president we felt he was doing it on the backs of our dead sons," Riches said.
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The 9/11 group is already being compared by some political observers to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth group that damaged the candidacy of Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) in 2004 by impugning his Vietnam War service in the Navy.
(ed: In your dreams Braun)
Both groups feature a self-sustaining constituency of passionate supporters...
(ed: ...but only ONE of them had/has any legitimacy)
...and are aided by outside political forces eager to use them as vehicles in the presidential race.
(ed: That pretty much describes YOU and YOUR propagandizing Braun)
"Starting small doesn't mean you can count them out," said Stephanie Cutter, a political consultant who countered the attacks as Kerry's press aide in 2004. "When the Swift Boat group started . . . they had no money and no plan. In a matter of months they had enough money to go up with an ad buy, and that triggered their relevance."
(ed: Here's a clue Ms. Cutter...TRUTH triggered their relevance)
The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth raised more than $25 million for media buys. Some of the money was donated in multimillion-dollar installments from reliable Republican fundraisers, including Texas businessmen T. Boone Pickens Jr. and Bob J. Perry. But last December, the group was fined almost $300,000 by the Federal Election Commission for exceeding spending limits and acting in concert with GOP campaign efforts.
(ed: This is an absolute mis-statement of fact...a blatant lie. In its finding, the FEC specifically denied Kerry's allegation of SVPT collusion with "GOP campaign efforts" when it stated...(emphasis mine)Following an investigation, the Commission concluded that Swiftvets did not unlawfully coordinate its activities with, or make excessive in-kind contributions to, any federal candidate or political party committee.
FEC Conciliation Agreement - Dec 13, 2006 The Swift Boat operation used an Internal Revenue Service exemption that allowed so-called 527 groups -- a reference to IRS code -- to raise funds and participate in political debate as long as they followed funding and election rules.
"To the extent that new 527 groups would like to do what the Swift Boat group did in 2004 may be subject down the road to much stiffer penalties than the Swift Boat people got," said Paul S. Ryan, associate legal counsel with the Campaign Legal Center, a nonpartisan campaign finance watchdog group.
According to several participants at Tuesday's discussions between Riches and his supporters from the International Assn. of Fire Fighters union, the 9/11 group is leaning toward using a 527 structure. Riches said the group had already been pledged nearly $200,000 and hoped to raise as much as $1 million for a website, media buys and campaign travel.
(ed: ...little of which will emanate from the firefighter "rank and file")
The Giuliani campaign, reeling in recent weeks from dropping poll numbers and running controversies, has already taken steps to blunt the firefighters' attacks. Heading the campaign's First Responders for Rudy, Safir has appeared on several political talk shows with Riches, but was careful not to engage him face-to-face, recognizing the delicacy of debating a Sept. 11 victim.
(ed: ...a perfect example of Ann Coulter's recent identification of the "unassailable victim" ploy...a democratic favorite)
"We owe all families that lost loved ones on 9/11 an unpayable debt, but finally this small group is admitting that this is a political attack with no other objective than to tarnish Mayor Giuliani's good name," Safir said Tuesday.
Earlier this year, the union produced an ad for its website that featured Riches and other New York firefighters criticizing Giuliani for blunders before and after Sept. 11. The New Yorkers said that Giuliani failed to provide first responders with proper radio equipment before the attacks and sharply reduced recovery teams at the World Trade Center site afterward even though many firefighters' bodies had not been found.
(ed: Does "lead balloon" ring a bell Mr. Braun?)
Giuliani and his aides have long disputed the radios' role in the collapse of emergency communications on Sept. 11. In a recent interview, Safir said that the "radios worked" but the repeaters -- which can extend the range of the radios into high-rise buildings -- did not.
The 9/11 group's effort to raise questions about Giuliani's performance before and after the attacks "takes on Rudy's strength," said Republican consultant Tom Edmonds. "I'm not sure that will go over with an American public that was impressed with what they saw."
(ed: Precisely. Mr. Braun, cardboard swiftboats just don't float...at least not very long)
But Riches and fellow activists, seared by their losses and offended by Giuliani's emphasis on Sept. 11 as the crucible of his leadership, say they expect to travel to primary states early in the new year to turn up the heat on the former mayor.
"Stay tuned," Riches said.
(ed: Mr. Braun and like-minded "journalists" will, undoubtedly, do their best in that regard...not that they actually SUPPORT the practice of their own warped definition of "swiftboating" )
steve.braun@latimes.com
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LewWaters Admin
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 4042 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Of the FEC case Braun likes to mispresent, Admiral Hoffamn gave an excellent explanation of the Swiftees decision to accept he fine and not fight it. From page 326 of To Set The Record Straight, we read,
Quote: | "It is far better to end this legal confrontation now than continue a costly battle against government bureaucrats in an area where the law is unconscionably vague. Despite opinions of reputable legal counsel who believe that the Swift Boat Veterans would win this issue in court, we are settling this dispute now so the bulk of our remaining cash can go to financially assist seriously wounded veterans." |
The "bitterness" Braun mentions appears to be his own in that his boy Kerry was defeated by Kerry's own fellow sailors, the honorable ones.
If this Firefighters Union has anything of merit on Giuliani, bring it forth. But beware, there is a new media now that will scrutinize and verify the truthfulness of any claim.
The Swift Vets claims were subjected to the same scrutiny, revealing the truthfullness, which led the majorty of America to decide that Kerry was "Unfit For Command." _________________ Clark County Conservative |
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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Noel Sheppard at "Newsbusters" is now on the case as well..
Quote: | LA Times Wrongly Smears Swift Boat Vets
By Noel Sheppard | December 20, 2007 - 10:00 ET
With less than a year to go until the November elections, it seems a metaphysical certitude any media outlet addressing the campaign efforts of a Republican candidate is going to figure out a way to reference the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
After all, supposedly impartial press representatives in 2004 did everything within their power to discredit the claims against Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) made by this organization, so much so that "Swift Boat" has become both a verb and an adverb in political parlance.
Such was the case Wednesday when the Los Angeles Times published an article about Republican Presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani. Even though the piece dealt with an organization opposing the former New York City mayor, it did so by grossly misrepresenting some pertinent facts about Kerry's detractors
<snip Patterico content>
Should we expect a retraction or correction? Probably more likely for us to see a negative article about MoveOn.org or Clinton's Center for American Progress, wouldn't you agree?
Instead, as every "non-profit" organization tied to Democrats gets a pass for its activities that should warrant scrutiny by the media as well as the FEC, the electorate is assured of continual press references to the Swift Boat Vets -- none of them favorable, most inaccurate.
Liberal media bias? What liberal media bias?
—Noel Sheppard is an economist, business owner, and Associate Editor of NewsBusters.
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