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[Theresa Alwood]

A lot can happen between now and November....I hate to say it but with McCain's age who knows if this will hurt him or not. I know one of the reasons I did not care for Bob Dole was HIS age!!!!

It would irriate me when I would listen to conservatives say that if Rudy got the nomination they would stay home; I argued that did nothing but put a liberal democrat in office...and you know that I am NOT a McCain supporter...do not like him at all. I have argued that I do not know if I can actually pull the trigger and seriously considered writing in a name rather than voting for McCain, but I know what happened when I took the high road and could not vote for Bush Sr in the 2nd election and voted for Ross Perot...Clinton's took office for 8 years...I am not willing to allow Obama or Clinton a chance at winning the election.

I will sit back and watch what happens as we see Obama possibly loosing the advantage and who knows what else will come out between now and November because I always said Hillary will not go down easily and without a fight..she will fight dirty and hard for the nomination and she will not let Obama get it even at the cost of splitting the DNC (how I would love to see that happen). Plus what people say and do may be two different things...noone would dream of saying they won't vote for Obama because he is black...I have co-workers who I know would note vote for Obama because of his race, but they would not dream of actually saying that. Racism does excist on both sides and we saw with Rev Wright...people just will not admit it.


I do understand why the conservatives are upset with McCain and I have to agree that conservatives did not vote for McCain...my impression of John McCain has changed very little...I still don't like him and I despise when he says "friends"...he is no friend of the conservatives in the party and I feel that he stuck his finger in our faces too many times to trust the man...but the other choices I cringe at that thought.

Time will tell...because at the beginning McCain was out and Hillary had the nomination locked up. I think McCain can pick up some voters depending on who he chooses as a VP because with his age that is one thing people will consider. So who will it be? We will see. I am going to sit back and just watch. It should prove to be intersting to say the least.

Obama has the most liberal voting record in the Senate...even over Hillary and Kennedy....scary is it not that this is not the issue that is being brought out. Hillary is saying she will put the troops out within what was it 90 days of being elected???? Regardless of what the status or her Generals tell her. These are issues McCain can win on if he is willing to bring these to the front and fight. I am not sure McCain can! Will he do it? Who knows...he claims he respects Obama and Clinton and thus alienates the party further.

We will see....we will see. So much to consider and so little to choose from. How sad.
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[dcornutt]

[coldwarvet]

dcornutt, Do you really want to go here? Remember the last time you challenged my MN Republican platform as not being conservative.

Show me the state where McCain got the majority of the conservative vote. Here is a link that may help you with your search. Perhaps you might find one of the later states, after McCain was the only horse left in the race.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21228184
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[dcornutt]

[Deuce]

[coldwarvet]

[dcornutt]

HA! That's the pot calling the kettle black now isn't it!

But, if you need more clarification I'll be glad to oblige as it's not difficult:

[Theresa Alwood]

dcrnutt

I have to agree with cwv on this one. EVERYONE I know of (with the exception of ONE) person that I know of voted for either Romney or Huckabee.

I still have yet to make up my mind if I am EVEN going to vote for McCain.

All I see in this race is 3 liberal candidates and one who claims we still stay the course in Iraq...no difference outsite of that. I know I SHOULD vote for McCain and my mind tells me I should vote for McCain but my heart tells me he is not much of a better choice and maybe I should just write in a name....because I truly dislike John McCain....true I dislike Clinton and Obama more but that really does not ease my heart any.
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[dcornutt]

I have lots of very conservative friends who feel the same. No problem.
Nationwide, the RNC has always been a big tent. And the more moderate of the party has followed the lead of the more conservative wing of the party who's had the helm of the party in the past.

That's obviously changing and some people can't a) accept it, or b) deny it c) resent it, don't think it should happen etc., etc.,

But, it IS happening.

And I've already stated the reasons why I think it's so. You can disagree with that (ie..the reasons it's shifted). But, you cannot deny that it has.
Its as clear as the statisics on your face.

[dcornutt]

[LimaCharlie]

I am a fiscal, foreign policy, and national defence conservative. I am also a social liberal. This qualifies me as a Libertarian who registers and votes as a moderate Republican. McCain should make me happy, but he really scares me. My current choices are to vote for Ralph Nader or a write-in candidate. I don't vote Libertarian because most of them scare me more than McCain and they have no chance of winning. A McCain/Rice ticket might sway me to vote for them. I have strongly supported every Republican candidate since 1952. I can not support McCain this year. I may write in Zell Miller's name.
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[Theresa Alwood]

McCain is NOT a conservative! No matter how hard the GOP tries to force him down our throat he is not our first choice...he was not even my LAST choice...he is the ONLY choice and that "my friend" I think is sad....I hate when I feel like I am being forced to vote for someone I dislike.

McCain/Feingold mean anything to you? It means the suppression of Freedom of Speech. How about McCain/Kennedy? It means amensty to all illegal aliens and allowing the SS benefits and health care benefits of Medicaid. How about McCain/Lieberman? .50 cents a gallon of gas tax increase means that I won't be able to go anywhere but work and home.

McCain voted AGAINST the Bush Tax cuts. Regarldess of what his so called reason is now...he voted against them then. Remember the Republican Gang that Senator McCain was so proud of? How many times did Senator McCain cross over party lines to work with the democrats. It was even reported at one time that Senator McCain was considering changing his party affilation.

Just because someone is pro-life does not make them a conservative. I am pro-choice and I consider myself a conservative. I am not and never will be a one issue voter. I believe abortions should be left up to the states and never the Federal Government.

Most of us all have our different perspective on various of issues...but what we all believe in is God, Honor and Country. That is the one issue we all stand firm in and hold together.

So I can respectfully disagree with your support of Senator McCain I can not. I am still not sure I will pull the lever for him. If McCain continues with the comments he is making to reach over to the libs he will loose my vote...I will write in someone. My vote should not be just considered a give in because he is on the GOP ticket.
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[dcornutt]

Nor have I suggested you should not vote your heart/mind.
What I have suggested is that some of the things expressed around here, like the notion that "there is no differences between McCain, Obama and Hillary" is not factually accurate and ridiculous on its face.

There are differences. Big differences. Differences at a fundamental level and of a conservative nature (which I pointed out). There may not exist the differences you would like to see or in the particular areas you'd like to see them in. You may disagree with him on a fundemental level on any given policy, as I do—particularly on immigration as I do with Bush as well. That doesn't make McCain a "Liberal" in the sense of ..ie. not different than Hillary or Obama or any other far leftwing DNC senator. Nor would the RNC allow him to carry the nomination of the party if they believed, knowing the same things you do, that to be true.

Write in anyone you want. Get the word out. Let people know what you are doing. If enough of you do so, perhaps you can submarine McCain and ensure a DNC victory. Or perhaps you'll gain some "leverage" within the RNC to get some more of the things you want within the party—perhaps chaining a VP choice to McCain that will sink him like a rock. When Hillary or Obama takes the presidency and 2 liberal justices suddenly retire vacating their positions on the supreme court leaving them and a DNC backed congress to appoint new ones for life....you are going to understand what the difference was between McCain and the others. I fear at that point, there will be nothing left for a party that no longer has relevance or power in gov to do anything but list grievences they are powerless to change.

Recognizing that there is nothing wrong with standing on principal, people "do" aready know what Liberals are and what they will do. And they are voting for them. The disasters that follow are not going to be a surprise to them....they want it that way. They are voting for them to "make it" that way. They aren't going to care that you are outraged by it. There isn't going to be a great coming to sense of the general voting public to come running to the RNC on principal seeking guidance and putting them back into power. We are all still going to be who we are at the end of this excercise. In that regard, I would be careful what you choose to give away....particularly if you are under the assumption that it will be returned to you. It may not be. You may find yourself without what you started with, and powerless to do anything about it as well. Just a thought.

[dcornutt]

As a seperate post I would address a couple of other things:

McCain is a "republican".

At the "time", McCain expressed differences with his collegues in the RNC over their, shall we say....over exhuberant spending of money. He expressed to them his opinion as a fiscal conservative, based on principal, that the tax cut bill should "also" contain some level of agreed upon spending control/cuts. He had the support of other Republicans on this, but was rejected by the powers that be. He opposed that bill on "principal"...something that most conservatives you would think would agree with or at least could understand. Without spending cuts, the tax cuts would not be effective. You generate more income, then spend it all. That's not fiscal conservative policy. Democrats and others voted against the bill for their "own" reasons. To believe he opposed tax cuts is about as close to reality as believing he wants to fight a war in Iraq for 100 years.

I have always admired McCain for standing on his principals (even though I may have disagreed with him on any given issue just as you say), and reaching out across the ailse. In that regard, the POTUS is not a partisan position. There is only one president, there are many senators and representatives who carry different interests. I also understand McCain has thrown the same people "out' of his office when what they bring to him, is not something he believes in. He works on princpal and issues he believes in and has a record of working with others to get things done. I don't necessarily find those bad qualities for a President. I can tell you for sure, both Obama and Hillary do NOT share those qualities.

And I agree, McCain Feingold was a typical piece of congress legislation that ended up not doing what it was supposed to do and not one of John's finner moments. . But, I also recognize that this obviously was not his intention for the bill anymore than it was Bush's "intention" to have Iraq turn into a meat grinder for these many years.

I have no issue with disagreement or differences in policy anyone may have with any candidate on any given issue. I'm not exactly so sure thats been the central core of some of the argument I've heard.

[BuffaloJack]