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dafrog · Seaman Recruit Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 22

Don't shoot me yet. I'm having a discussion with a loyal demorcrat friend of mine, tring to get him to see John Kerry in the same light as I do. We've been going back and forth with this discorse for some time now. He keeps coming out with the same ol' tired party lines that Kerry is to be excused for what ever he did because he was young and look at what President Bush did when he was in the National Guard. I finally said that Kerry and Hanio Jane were in the same group back in the day. My friend, who is also a Viet Nam vet, didn't believe it. The very next day I get an apoligy, he did a little investigating for himself. He said that he will remain a demorcrat, but, thanks to Jane Fonda, John Kerry will not be recieving his vote come November. Maybe this arguement can be used more often, how many vets can forget or forgive what she did?

I edited your title - I can't stomach "three cheers" and that traitorous piece of trash mentioned in the same breath - a thousand pardons, but I just can't. Wink

EJ

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

My Dad sent me a couple of diatribes about Jane Fonda a while before he died - she'd been nominated for some honor and he was incensed.

He was discharged a corporal in 1953 and when these "fake soldiers" with their marches under Ho Chi Minh's flag started up, the noise level in our house went up a few notches. Wink

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Paul · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:06 pm Post subject: Stick to the actions that count

I agree. Stick to the issue of the young Mr. Kerry's indefensible actions 1969 through 1972 in VVAW and the aid and comfort his actions gave to the north Vietnamese forces fighting U.S. forces at the time rather than quibbling about his navy record.

The same with Jane Fonda. Her actions are indefensible, especially considering her post-Vietnam years in contrast to her "anti-war" period when the gal who said we should "pray to be communists" became rich as anything but a communist or commust supporter. Neither she nor Kerry said a word in protest or condemnation of the situation in post-75 Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia.

No complaints from either of them whatsoever about the Vietnamese offensive in post-75 Laos or Marxist-Maoist offensive and government in post-75 Cambodia or the post-75 clashes between Marxist-Leninists and Marxist-Maoists in the region, all of which resulted in the Laotian, Vietnamese and Cambodian diasporas for the first time in their history and the Cambodian genocide.

No. Neither was even tried for treason '69 through '72, not even for the organizations public work advocating such as "fragging" among our armed forces during those years. That's only one more of the many bad consequences that result from so-called undeclared wars that serve to leave our servicemen unprotected against such people.
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dafrog · Seaman Recruit Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 22

No problem on the subject change. It sort of erked me to write it that way.Thanks... Mike Tompkins

Paul · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:32 pm Post subject: No problem from me either

"edited your title - I can't stomach "three cheers" and that traitorous piece of trash mentioned in the same breath - a thousand pardons, but I just can't. EJ"

No problem from either. As worded it was hard to stomach.
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Ordie_rat · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:58 pm Post subject: She's CRAP!

I can't stand Jane Fonda and wish she'd stayed in North Vietnam with her commie buddies. I have a patch on the back of a flight jacket that reads - Jane Fonda, Commie Traitor B*tch!

She and John Kerry are two peas in a pod. I'm voting for "W" in November!

Very Happy

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MarineBrat · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:12 pm Post subject:

What's Hanio Jane up to these days anyway? Oh, about 280 lbs.... Smile

OK, seriously, I haven't heard a peep about what cave she's flying out of, or where she hangs her broom and cooties.

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Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

She's been heard on Iraq, as well.

Once a Blame-America-Firster, always a Blame-America-Firster.

This is the woman who denied that the returning POW's were tortured. She called them "liars and hypocrites," and said that a POW doesn't walk smartly off a plane and kiss his wife.

Her half-azzed (and half-witted) statement of "regret" never sat too well with the people who hated her and it certainly did not expunge her record.
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4moreyears · Former Member Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 591

I feel sorry for Maria Teresa Thierstein Simoes-Ferreira Heinz Kerry.

For sure if JFK gets into the W.H. he will dump Mrs. Shove It and hook up with Hanoi Jane.

Can you imagine Hanoi Jane as first lady? What worse insult could there be? Rolling Eyes

Anyway...yesterday I was exploring Portugese web sites to see what the scuttlebutt is on Jose Simoes-Ferreira the doctor. No info showed up. He left Portugal during the time of Salazar who was only a degree or two left of Hitler. I bet there's a story there. Lots of Portugese did well in Mozambique and Zaire and Angola...lots of diamonds, gold and oil. So I am curious...I can't say there's fire since I'm not sure if there's smoke.
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kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam.

republicanveteran · Commander Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 333 Location: Texas

I have never forgiven, nor forgotten "traitor Jane"

PhuCat to Phu Quoc · Lt.Jg. Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 110 Location: California

minnie presley · Commander Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 307

well let me tell you waht fonda is up to she was in santea fe nm yesterday, demonstrating in a street mach to get the women vote out for kerry, so much for kerry not having as part of camp, please let all vets know this if they are leaning towards kerry they won't after that bit of info

4moreyears · Former Member Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 591

"Fonda said; "I don't know if a country where the people are so ignorant of reality and of history, if you can call that a free world."

And Michael Moore went to France and said that "Americans are the stupidist people", I was parapharasing.

YOU know he's partly right because so many Americans paid their hard earned money to see his B.S. so called documentary.
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kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam.