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baldeagle · Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject:

I must admit to mixed feelings here.
While I admire his stand and his viewpoint, I believe that his oath also has a clause about "obeying the lawful orders of those appointed over me".
And until such time as Obama's appointment is officially judged "unlawful", I believe he is appointed "Commander-in Chief", and, as such, should be accorded that obedience.
It's a conundrum, to be sure, the country has never before been in the position of possibly having an imposter in command, and it is a problem which is not going to go away until full disclosure is made.
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zinfella · Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:08 am Post subject:

I should think that the chain of command will chew this guy up, no matter what anyone thinks.
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TEWSPilot · Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:53 am Post subject:

With the authority that comes from command comes responsibility. Refusing to process his request and instead making an example out of a low ranking officer for demanding to know that the authority he follows is legitimate while not providing him an honest answer is cowardice on their part. Considering that his actions during war and any orders HE might give may well be construed as illegal if he is not following a legitimate leader issuing legitimate orders, he is in jeopardy of being charged with war crimes. This matter needs to be resolved for the good order of the entire military as well as to demonstrate to the world that we follow the rule of law, not the rule of men, especially when the potential for a usurper in the White House is at issue. This man's course of action may not be acceptable under the rules, but his request certainly is. Show us your proof of citizenship, Mr. Obama.
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TEWSPilot · Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:33 am Post subject: Is there a 2nd to the motion?

GenrXr · Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:34 am Post subject:

I like this soldiers passion, but he is wrong.

We have a chain of command and checks and balances. The supreme court swore Obama in and that is the check. He must follow his chain of command, unless he is asked to perform a criminal duty.

The German Field Marshall Erwin Rommel is a good subject to study in this regard. He followed Hitler until he knew for certain he was committing criminal actions. Rommel had all telegraphs sent to him while in Afrika personally delivered to him by a trusted officer, rather than the SS political attached officer, once he learned of Hitler killing Jewish people. Had the SS found this out, he would have been killed on the spot.

He survived Afrika and many British and American POW's and their families owe their lives to him as a result.

For those that do not know - Rommel was given orders by Hitler to kill all of his POW's. Rommel burned the orders and set all of his POW's free with water and food. He then returned to Germany. Hitler would soon kill him.
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TEWSPilot · Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:42 am Post subject:

GenrXr · Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:47 am Post subject:

TEWSPilot · Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:23 am Post subject:

Maybe we just need the truth from Obama.

dusty · Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject:

The courts seem to be fond of ruling that no one had the 'Standing' to challenge Obama's citizenship qualifications.
Perhaps they will give some weight to men who must put their lives on the line following his orders. Surely if anyone has 'Standing' they should.
Has to be a reason why he will not allow any of his documentation to be made public.
When you fight this hard to keep things a secret, there is usually a reason.
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BuffaloJack · Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:07 am Post subject:

If Obama can thwart the Constitution on eligibility, then he can also thwart the constitution on term limits.
I do not trust this socialist SOB and I pray for his utter failure. I also pray that our nation can survive his recklessness until the next election.
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zinfella · Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject:

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Stevie · Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:48 am Post subject:

I agree Buffalo! a very sad thing to find our country in this state... and he's moving like a bulldozer to put things in place so he can do whatever he darn well pleases.

and the media is letting him do it...
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kate · Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:04 am Post subject:

Interesting legislation being proposed, that would

"require presidential candidates to provide a birth certificate and other documents to prove their eligibility to occupy the Oval Office"

One proposed by a FLA Rep in the US Congress likely to go nowhere...

Missouri has a bill too though. Maybe the show-me state will come..

We can hope anyway....
be a hoot if it passed and was in place for ToTUS's re-election try.
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