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scotty61 · LCDR Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 419 Location: Glyndon MN

I was listening to a local talk radio show, Hot Talk with Scott Hennen WDAY-Fargo, and during his daily segment with Ellen Ratner (contributer Fox News and Kerry supporter) and the subject of Louis Letson came up and Ratner said "as far as I'm concerned he's a liar!" I was so mad I almost drove into the ditch! Apparently Ratner is of the mindset that Kerry is above reproach because of his Vietnam service, but any other vets, who oppose him, are to condemned without proof.

An interview with Letson was to follow and Hennen asked Ratner to stay over the break and debate him face to face. Needless to say Ratner ran up the yellow flag and refused.

I intend to e-mail Fox News at Viewerservices@foxnews.com and express my displeasure with Ratner and her slanderous charge.

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

This is all stemming from Kerry's claim that "Dr. Carreon" signed the sick call sheet.

The hospital corpsman, HM1 Carreon is deceased and can no longer answer for himself.

But any Navy doctor or Corpsman from that era can explain the signature easily. In fact, I wasn't even an HM, but I explained it pretty well in another post.

Idiots - you know they did this all through GWI and again through Afghanistan and again through Iraq. Talking heads talking to other talking heads about military matters. Blind leading the blind....
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hanna · Rear Admiral Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701

Wait a minute. Exactly what was Carreon? and what does HM1 stand for? Would this person ever have treated a patient?

I am going to write to O'reily but I want to be sure my facts are straight.

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

HM1 Carreon was the Hospital Corpsman who signed the sick call sheet.

Many people sign in on the sick call sheet as they arrive at the dispensary.

The procedures for signing off any particular patient's sign-in would depend on the dispensary. It could have been the corpsman or nurse who took him to the treatment room, or the attendant corpsman or nurse or it could have been the corpsman who returned the medical record to its proper place in the files.

The sick call sheet is NOT the same thing as a treatment record, and as was pointed out here, this wound was so slight that the doctor may have just gaffed off writing a treatment report for something that small or it may have been written and still reside in the records that Kerry refuses to divulge.

Oh and yes, Corpsmen routinely did small treatments and still do, as far as I know. Especially those in training for independent duty. If Carreon was under Dr. Letson's supervision for training as a platoon medic - FMF medic, I think they called them - then he would have signed the treatments that he performed, and possibly treatments that Dr. Letson performed, signed "by direction." But we won't know because all Kerry has released is the sick call sheet.

Hope that helps. Smile

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ASPB · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:36 am Post subject:

Carreon passed away a few years ago. HM1 means Hospitalman 1st Class (E6). A medic or a trauma nurse is the best way to describe it.

But in most situations they are also responsible for the paperwork that most MDs are too lazy to do.

It's all spin....or stupidity. I choose spin!
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hanna · Rear Admiral Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701

In his position, would Carreon have been able to or authorized to treat a wound, especially if it was very minor? I mean with that "title/ranking...whatever.......would that be possible?

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

Yes, he would have had that capability, absolutely.

But, (and this is a big 'but') if there does exist a treatment record for this using of a forceps to remove a tiny splinter imbedded 1-3cm into the skin....

Dr. Letson could have performed it exactly as he has stated and HM1 Carreon could have been the one to sign off the treatment record, "By Direction."

OR

HM1 Carreon could have observed the treatment and signed the record.

OR

HM1 could have observed the treatment and Dr. Letson signed the treatment record.

OR

HM1 could have performed the treatment under supervision and Dr. Letson signed the treatment record.

OR

Some other situation entirely.....

Clear as mud, yet? Wink

Honest, I'm not trying to make this more difficult.
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d19thdoc · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:00 am Post subject:

kate · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:02 am Post subject:

Listen to Letson interview -- link on transcripts page
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hanna · Rear Admiral Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701

PERFECT. That was exactly what I needed:)) Thanks. I did not know until now there was a transcripts page. Found it by typing transcript in the search engine.

truthseeker · Seaman Recruit Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 34

[quote="kate"]Listen to Letson interview -- link on transcripts page[/quote]

Kate, forgive my ignorance, but where exactly is that Letson interview?

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

Transcripts thread:
http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1726

Letson interview transcript:
http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=16696#16696
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minnie presley · Commander Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 307

can anyone tell me how many copies have been sold I ordered my copy today,

scotty61 · LCDR Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 419 Location: Glyndon MN

Just a followup to the original post, Ellen Ratner had a pretty tough day on her segment on Hot Talk with Scott Hennen (WDAY Fargo). Seems that people did not like her calling Dr. Letson a liar and she was taken to task.

truthseeker · Seaman Recruit Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 34

[quote="Navy_Navy_Navy"]Transcripts thread:
[url]http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1726[/url]

Letson interview transcript:
[url]http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=16696#16696[/url][/quote]

Many thanks Navy-x-3.

One would imagine it would be "fairly" easy to historically place Dr. Letson in the aid station where Mr. Kerry appeared.