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Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 438 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:43 pm Post subject: ???? BAND/AID BROTHERS ?????? |
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How about vietnam vets give examples where it was more than
a band/aid wound and all that was done was the medic and back
to the fire fight. Never a request for a medal nor any boo.hoo
boo.hoo, just back to work. _________________ the strange mr aj |
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Sgt-Keeper Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 96
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject: Does this count? |
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I dove into a paddy hole without my helmet on and found a rock with my head. Took 17 stitches to close that gash. I was med-evacacted by jeep to an aid station. Spent the night there, I remember the exact day and date. It was the day before Thanksgiving, 1965. I bought 6 cases of beer, warm Falstaff (it was all we had) gave 2 to a Huey jockey to fly me back to my unit. He flew me back but it was the following day, Thanksgiving, late afternoon, and the damage was already done. Some good hearted soul had sent Thanksgiving dinner to the men in the field. But, something had spoiled & no one noticed. Marines will eat anything. (no further comments necessary) The entire company had the screaming trots for the next day or two. Nope, no PH that time. Got mine later. This wound (gash) was "seared into my brain". JFK, I feel your pain! Wuss! _________________ Fix the problem, not the blame.
USMC E5 Nam vet 65-66 |
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You GottaBeKidding Rear Admiral
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 692
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Sgt-Keeper,
I guess your experience debunks what someone else posted on this board about PHs being given automatically for any medical treatment under the "right" circumstances. |
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Grampa Lt.Jg.
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 143 Location: Eureka, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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You GottaBeKidding wrote: | Sgt-Keeper,
I guess your experience debunks what someone else posted on this board about PHs being given automatically for any medical treatment under the "right" circumstances. |
PHs are given automatically, but have to be backed up with medical treament records, Incident Reports and/or Casualty Feeder Reports. They aren't submitted for like other decorations, true, but they aren't just handed out. _________________ Iraqi Freedom 2003-2004. We won't take any of that 1960s crap when We come home! |
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Sgt-Keeper Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 96
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:28 pm Post subject: PHs are not jellybeans, never were |
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The two operative prerequisites are..."medical treatment", and "as a result of enemy action". We received many forms of cuts, bruses, scratches and other forms of body piercings (John stabbed his hand with his k-bar one time) but no PHs were awarded. We were under fire many times, mostly by the enemy, sometimes by our own, and no PHs. The two had to be combined. I only lost one man to a minor wound, booby trap, shrapnel in the butt. He came back when he turned 18. The rest are on the wall, and JFngK doesn't deserve to be within a mile of that monument to the brave men and women we served with. _________________ Fix the problem, not the blame.
USMC E5 Nam vet 65-66 |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | The rest are on the wall, and JFngK doesn't deserve to be within a mile of that monument to the brave men and women we served with. |
Completely concur!
And yet, against the rules of the National Park Service that seek to prevent the use of The Wall for political purposes, John Kerry used it as a backdrop in his 1984 campaign. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother |
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Indianbaboon Lieutenant
Joined: 04 Jul 2004 Posts: 234
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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what's so frustrating is I have a good friend with only one butt cheek and half a foot (FAC) who still supports Kerry...he was out there for 4 years, even after both injuries |
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ASPB Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 1680
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Indianbaboon wrote: | what's so frustrating is I have a good friend with only one butt cheek and half a foot (FAC) who still supports Kerry...he was out there for 4 years, even after both injuries |
Buy him a copy of "Unfit for Command". _________________ On Sale! Order in lots of 100 now at velero@rcn.com Free for the cost of shipping All profits (if any, especially now) go to Swiftvets. The author of "Sink Kerry Swiftly" ---ASPB |
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Indianbaboon Lieutenant
Joined: 04 Jul 2004 Posts: 234
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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he knows everything
he just says "well at least Kerry went to war and will support our troops"
when i coutner with kerry's recent votes against things like body armor and what not, he just says "damn you backed me into a corner..but i'm still voting kerry" |
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Bob Chamberlain Lt.Jg.
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 147 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject: PH Criteria |
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I was leg infantry. Out in the field, if the medic could handle it, he did. No PH, and I never heard anyone complain. If you got medevac'd, the PH was pretty much automatic. The only question I ever remember being asked was, "is this line of duty?", which I found a bit humorous. "Right, DH. I did this to myself while I was off duty." Like we were ever "off duty" out in the field. But we had a lot of REMF's back in the base camps who got the PH for things like banging their heads on a low door when "taking cover" from a rocket that went in a mile or two away. So, while Kerry was worse than most, he isn't the only guy to come out of Vietnam with a medal he really didn't earn. I guess the difference is whether you were trying to collect medals or whther you just didn't try to stop one. |
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air_vet PO2
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 374
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: PH Criteria |
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Bob Chamberlain wrote: | So, while Kerry was worse than most, he isn't the only guy to come out of Vietnam with a medal he really didn't earn. I guess the difference is whether you were trying to collect medals or whther you just didn't try to stop one. |
No, but he is the only guy coming out of Vietnam trying to run for president based on such lies! |
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Bob Chamberlain Lt.Jg.
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 147 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:01 pm Post subject: Kerry's Film |
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Very true. It was Kerry's film and his big hero act that got me motivated to do something like joining this forum. Maybe he can wangle himself another Purple Heart - for shootng himself in the foot. |
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Indianbaboon Lieutenant
Joined: 04 Jul 2004 Posts: 234
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Bob, if Kerry gets a PH for that, it would mean that he actually got one for what real men would consider an injury
bulletwound is several orders of magnitude greater than anything he ever got |
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