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Dabba55 Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 84 Location: Westchester, NY
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject: Kerry in 1971: "60 to 80% Vets stoned 24 hrs a day" |
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An excerpt from Kerry's 1971 Senate testimony on the rampant use of drugs:
Senator Symington: There have been many reports of widespread use of drugs by U.S. servicemen in Vietnam. I might add I was in Europe last week and the growth of that problem was confirmed on direct questioning of people in the military. How serious is the problem and to what do you attribute it?
Mr. Kerry: The problem is extremely serious. It is serious in very many different ways. I believe two Congressmen today broke a story. I can't remember their names. There were 35,000 or some men, heroin addicts that were back. The problem exists for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the emptiness. It is the only way to get through it. A lot of guys, 60, 80 percent stay stoned 24 hours a day just to get through the Vietnam-
Senator Symington: You say 60 to 80 percent.
Mr. Kerry: Sixty to 80 percent is the figure used that try something, let's say, at one point. Of that, I couldn't give you a figure of habitual smokers, let's say, of pot, and I certainly couldn't begin to say how many are hard drug addicts, but I do know that the problem for the returning veteran is acute because we have, let's say, a veteran picks up at $12 habit in Saigon. He comes back to this country and the moment he steps off an airplane that same habit costs him some $90 to support. With the state of the economy, he can't get a job. He doesn't earn money. He turns criminal or just finds his normal sources and in a sense drops out. |
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ASPB Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 1680
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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As usual he was wrong!
Only 10 or 15 percent of us stayed stoned 12 hours-a-day and only on Park Lanes and Carling's Black Death.
The other 12 hours-a-day we were on duty. _________________ On Sale! Order in lots of 100 now at velero@rcn.com Free for the cost of shipping All profits (if any, especially now) go to Swiftvets. The author of "Sink Kerry Swiftly" ---ASPB |
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The Ghost Seaman
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 160
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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maybe kerry was stoned when he wrote that he was in cambodia ?? |
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lrb111 Captain
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 508
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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There were 35,000 or some men, heroin addicts that were back. >>>>>>
Anyone ever hear of drug treatment occuring for these 35,000 that would be making the voyage back from VN?
I was a licensced drug and alcohol counselor, beleive me, someone would have noticed 35,000 vets going into withdrawal on the trip home. _________________ said Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe. "It is inexcusable to mock service and sacrifice."
well, when even the DNC can see it,,,,, then kerry is toast. |
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SonTestedShelter Seaman Recruit
Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 46
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:04 pm Post subject: Re: Kerry in 1971: "60 to 80% Vets stoned 24 hrs a day& |
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Dabba55 wrote: |
A lot of guys, 60, 80 percent stay stoned 24 hours a day just to get through the Vietnam-
Sixty to 80 percent is the figure used that try something, let's say, at one point. |
Do you see the hypocracy there, or am I the only one? _________________
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mcb58 Seaman Recruit
Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 42 Location: Mount Pocono,PA
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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YA!!! RIGHT. _________________
THE GREAT FIFTY-EIGHT |
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4moreyears Former Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:31 am Post subject: |
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R*E*S*P*E*C*T find out what it means to me...kerry can't give it and he doesn't deserve it.
He's a bum plain and simple and only bums support him. If you think that's harsh then there's no hope for you. I feel sorry for those kerry victimized not for kerry the self serving victimizer. _________________ kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam. |
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fortdixlover Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 1476
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: Kerry in 1971: "60 to 80% Vets stoned 24 hrs a day& |
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Dabba55 wrote: | Mr. Kerry [ON THE FLIP]: The problem is extremely serious. It is serious in very many different ways. I believe two Congressmen today broke a story. I can't remember their names. There were 35,000 or some men, heroin addicts that were back. The problem exists for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the emptiness. It is the only way to get through it. A lot of guys, 60, 80 percent stay stoned 24 hours a day just to get through the Vietnam-
Senator Symington: You say 60 to 80 percent.
Mr. Kerry [ON THE FLOP]: Sixty to 80 percent is the figure used that try something, let's say, at one point. Of that, I couldn't give you a figure of habitual smokers, let's say, of pot, and I certainly couldn't begin to say how many are hard drug addicts(FLOP) |
Amazing, an almost instantaneous FLIP FLOP!!
How did the Senate ever take Kerry seriously? Even the most inexperienced backwoods country lawyer could have immediately cut this self-contradictory testimony into little itty bitty pieces.
FDL
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BuffaloJack Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 1637 Location: Buffalo, New York
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | It is the only way to get through it. A lot of guys, 60, 80 percent stay stoned 24 hours a day just to get through the Vietnam-
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Maybe I’m just naïve or blind. I spent 20 months of my two-year tour at Vung Tau and Cat Lo (Kerry’s haunts for his last month or so). In my entire tour, I can’t remember a single incident of drug use among any of the men there. We might have had a bit too much beer from time to time, but I never saw anything else. It just wouldn’t have been tolerated. If there was any drug use, then the crew member doing it was very accomplished at hiding his habit. As I recall, we had no draftees in our unit, everyone a volunteer, volunteers usually have their heads screwed on straight and are, for the most part, reliable. |
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Dabba55 Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 84 Location: Westchester, NY
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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I feel personally feel that this particular slander did great damage to returning vets, because Hollywood picked it up and portrayed Vietnam vets as hopeless, drugged out losers. This had to have serious consequences for the way the public in general viewed Vietnam vets.
It also, in particular, created a presumption which each and every vet had to overcome in facing potential employers.
Kerry, along with Fonda et al, contributed greatly to this perception.
Imagine doing this, something so morally wrong, to promote one's political career. He almost made a clean getaway folks. |
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