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integritycounts Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 667
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject: Kerry Campaign CAUGHT in another Lie |
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Kerry Campaign CAUGHT in another Lie
A. What his campaign said.
http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/state/9395212.htm
Earlier this year, Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan told the Boston Globe that Kerry had "no role whatsoever in the Paris peace talks or negotiations." Meehan said Kerry had gone to Paris on a private trip and had one brief meeting with Madam Nguyen Thi Binh and others.
B. What Kerry said April 22, 1971 United States Senate, Committee on Foreign Relations
http://www.c-span.org/vote2004/jkerrytestimony.asp
"The Chairman: Do you support or do you have any particular views about any one of them you wish to give the committee?
Mr. Kerry: My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. But I would like to say, in answering that, that I do not believe it is necessary to stall any longer. I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned.
I think this negates very clearly the argument of the President that we have to maintain a presence in Vietnam, to use as a negotiating block for the return of those prisoners. The setting of a date will accomplish that.
As to the argument concerning the danger to our troops were we to withdraw or state that we would, they have also said many times in conjunction with that statement that all of our troops, the moment we set a date, will be given safe conduct out of Vietnam. The only other important point is that we allow the South Vietnamese people to determine their own figure and that ostensibly is what we have been fighting for anyway.
I would, therefore, submit that the most expedient means of getting out of South Vietnam would be for the President of the United States to declare a cease-fire, to stop this blind commitment to a dictatorial regime, the Thieu-Ky-Khiem regime, accept a coalition regime which would represent all the political forces of the country which is in fact what a representative government is supposed to do and which is in fact what this Government here in this country purports to do, and pull the troops out without losing one more American, and still further without losing the South Vietnamese.
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A does not equal B. This is basic stuff, which is the lie, now or then? |
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low26 Lieutenant
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 219 Location: Chicago il
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Not only is it a lie it is illegal.Kerry should be turning big rocks into little rocks a Leavenworth if there was any justice! The words Sedition and treason come to mind. At the least he is a bold face liar! And is truly Unfit for Command or any other public office. He should go back to Vietnam and live with his socialist buddies who honor him in their war museum |
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stylin19 Lt.Jg.
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 122
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Besides the 1970 trip, it appears Kerry also went to Paris a second time.
"According to Gerald Nicosia, a Kerry supporter and the author of the book Home to War: A History of the Vietnam Veterans' Movement, Kerry's second visit to Paris to meet with emissaries of the North Vietnamese communist government is documented in redacted FBI files from the era.
"The [FBI] files record that Kerry made a second trip to Paris that summer (1971) to learn how the North Vietnamese might release prisoners," Nicosia wrote in an essay in the Los Angeles Times on May 23.
"...In 1970, he and his new wife, Julia Thorne, traveled to France in May to meet Madame Nguyen Thi Binh and other Viet Cong and Communist Vietnamese representatives to the Paris peace talks, a trip he now calls a 'fact-finding mission,"' Nicosia wrote." _________________ U.S.M.C. - 1969-1971
RVN- 1970-1971 |
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integritycounts Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 667
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 8:12 am Post subject: |
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good find on the second trip....the media is covering the story, its just that they are not checking the facts.
Its very clear the media wants to suppress entire argument by asserting that his record should not be examined. But Kerry made a fatal mistake on that, the convention speech. The fair minded minority of the media will force the biased media to investigate.
The work of the Bloggers Teams is quite amazing too. The research I am seeing assembled by Bloggers is going to drive this, along with the actual Swift Vets of course.
We are not over the major hurdle yet....the coverage is all about "Swift Vets say".....we will be over the hump when the stories change to....."Kerry was asked to respond to" |
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