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U S Army EOD · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 12:38 am Post subject:

Air_Vet

You may have just hit the nail right on the head.
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joppa · Former Member Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 11

Edited by Moderator - personal attacks on others are not allowed - go after the statements, instead.
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joppa · Former Member Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 11

edited by Moderator - personal attacks against members or this site is not permitted.
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air_vet · PO2 Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 374

Scott · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:10 am Post subject:

Joppa, the Swiftvets' records aren't at issue because they aren't running for President on them.

How can a candidate expect us to vote for him when his campaign is based on a non-public record?
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Tony · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:12 am Post subject:

Joppa - since you have changed the topic from Kerry's records and whether SBVFT speaks the truth to unrelated topics like people's level of maturity and the type of response you often receive when you share your opinions, I thought maybe you were fair game for a question.

Your tag line makes it sound like you live your life with a moral compass based on relativism, where each individual does his or her own thing, regardless of the consequences. In this philosophical system, there is no right or wrong and no absolute truth. It is a philosophy that often serves as the underpinning for totalitarianism and communism and I'm curious as to whether you believe strongly in this idea or just thought it sounded like a cool tag line?

I guess either way, it provides some interesting perspective on where you are coming from and how you think which of course is one of the key functions for a tag line.

Moderator - Let's keep the subject on Kerry's records, please.
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Tony · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:16 am Post subject:

I'm not a Swift Boat Veteran but I am a Veteran and if I were running for office, I would have no problem releasing my entire military record including FITREPS for the public. I can say this since I served honorably and did nothing I would wish to hide from the public. On the other hand - If I were ashamed of something or afraid it would be used against me, I might choose to carefully control what I release. In either case, the records of others who served with me would have nothing to do with the issue at hand.

It seems like John Kerry is trying to hide something or is ashamed of something. Only one way to resolve the issue, of course, and that would be the full release of his records.
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Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

Admin note:

All joppa throttling will cease at 2130 hours

That is all

Tony · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:18 am Post subject:

Aye Aye, Sir...standing down.... Very Happy

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U S Army EOD · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:35 am Post subject:

Site Moderator,

Gee, I'm sorry, I lost my head.--------(who did Joppa attack)? Embarassed

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U S Army EOD · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:44 am Post subject:

No Joppa,

The North Vietnamese attacked John McCain and shot him down. Check out many pictures of Jane Fonda sitting on anti aircraft guns. After shooting McCain down she helped John Kerry with Vietnam Veterans Against the War who were also on the side of the North Vietnamese. Same side, same people. Shocked

Site Moderator,

Sorry, but I couldn't help myself on that one, and I promise sir, I will get back to the subject, but you know how EOD people are. By the way make sure and watch Elvis Presley in "Girls, Girls, Girls" where he plays the part of a Navy EOD guy. Now back to taking things serious. Wink

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joppa · Former Member Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 11

Ayn Rand's philosophy is what I embrace to a large degree. I am conservative note NOT a Neoconservative. I believe in the integrity of man. I deplore large government that eventually enslaves the mind, body and soul.

I have never heard of the **. I wil go to google and check them out. If they engage in slander, or devious means then I will denounce them.

We are not electing a dog catcher. It is the duty of every American to be informed concerning whom we elect to office. this means NOT taking sides but to do your homework. What I see happening is that people who disagree with either the left or right is branded an enemy. this is what worries me. Our nation is becoming more and more divided. I blame conservative talk radio and the left wing media for this divide.

If we dont stand together then we will fall together. This hate has to stop. Our enemy is Al Qaeda not people who disagree with you as far as political affilation is concerned.

So, I will wait and see if Kerry releases all his military records. I will wait and see if the charges brought against him stand. I owe the man at least that consideration.

Time for me to hit the sack

Take care
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