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Craig Guest
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 9:24 pm Post subject: The Vietnam investor behind the "Swift Boat Vets" |
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http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/05/14/gannon/index.html
The Vietnam investor behind the "Swift Boat Vets" attack
The group attacking Kerry for his antiwar record is backed by a wealthy veteran who's profiting from his business ties to the Communist regime.
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By Joe Conason
May 14, 2004 | When the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" launched its campaign against John Kerry 10 days ago, leadership and guidance were provided by Republican activists and presidential friends from Texas -- notably Houston attorney John E. O'Neill and corporate media consultant Merrie Spaeth. Indeed, although the group made its debut at a press conference in Washington, it looked and sounded like a Texas GOP operation.
On closer inspection, the ostensibly nonpartisan "Swift Boat Vets" seem to have another pair of significant sponsors with deep and long-standing Republican connections in Missouri. Both are officers of Gannon International, a St. Louis conglomerate that does lots of overseas business in, of all places, the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.
Ties to Gannon can be traced via the Swift Boat Vets Web site (as an alert reader advised me last week). On April 14, the site was registered under the name of Lewis Waterman, Gannon's information technology manager, at 11301 Olive Boulevard in St. Louis, the firm's headquarters address. Although Waterman wouldn't discuss why he had set up the Web site, he didn't deny that his boss, Gannon president and CEO William Franke, had asked him to do so.
"The information about my client is confidential," said Waterman. He acknowledged knowing, however, that his boss Franke is a Navy veteran who served in Vietnam on swift boats. Gannon vice president Stephen Hayes, who oversees the company's office in Alexandria, Va., is likewise a swift boat veteran who first met Franke when they served together in the Mekong Delta.
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While neither Franke nor Hayes returned calls seeking confirmation of their roles in the Swift Boat Veterans organization, it seems obvious that Waterman wouldn't have set up the group's Web site using Gannon's corporate address without approval from his employers.
Franke is well known in Missouri as a longtime Republican Party activist and financier. In 1976, he managed John Danforth's victorious Senate campaign; two years later, he ran unsuccessfully for Congress. He also failed in an attempt to resuscitate the defunct St. Louis Globe-Democrat (which was, despite its name, a staunchly Republican newspaper) in 1986. Before the Globe-Democrat finally went under in 1987, Franke had obtained a commitment from the state industrial development authority -- all of whose members were appointed by then Gov. John Ashcroft -- to raise $9 million in tax-exempt revenue bonds to keep the paper afloat.
Last June, Franke gave the maximum $2,000 to the Bush-Cheney campaign, and he has since donated an additional $2,000 to House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's political action committee, Americans for a Republican Majority, and $2,000 more to Keep Our Majority, the PAC operated by House Speaker Dennis Hastert.
Hayes left a long career in government to join Franke's company in 1993. His résumé is littered with public relations posts in Republican administrations dating back at least to 1984, when he worked as a transition spokesman for Treasury Secretary Donald Regan. He moved on to similar jobs at the Internal Revenue Service, the Federal Aviation Administration and the Agency for International Development.
Following the departure of the first Bush administration, Hayes joined Gannon. He maintains his conservative credentials as a director of the International Center for Religion and Diplomacy, an organization that promotes "faith-based diplomacy" to resolve global conflicts. (Among this outfit's other board members are a former Republican congressman from Ohio, an author of books and articles arguing against evolution, and former Reagan national security advisor Robert McFarlane, forced to resign for his role in the Iran-Contra scandal.)
What is most intriguing about Franke, Hayes, and Gannon -- especially in light of their apparent role in the campaign against John Kerry -- are their strong commercial interests in Southeast Asia. While Gannon is a highly diversified holding company whose divisions range from real estate in Florida and Missouri to Internet technology and software, it maintains an unusual presence in Vietnam, with offices in both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City. Indeed, Gannon has operated in that country's tourism, real estate and import-export sectors for a decade. (The target market for its tours was fellow Vietnam veterans.)
None of Gannon's profitable activities in the communist republic would be possible, of course, without the approval of the Hanoi government, which Franke has described as "strong" and "stable." Nor would Gannon be conducting business in Vietnam without the Clinton administration diplomacy, assisted by Sen. Kerry, that established diplomatic and trade ties with the United States in 1994. Franke first began traveling to Vietnam on behalf of Operation Smile, an American charity that provides plastic surgery to children abroad. The relationships he established during those humanitarian missions provided a considerable advantage in doing business under government auspices.
It was also during those early visits to Vietnam, as he told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, that Franke reached a clearer understanding of the war he had once fought as a young Navy lieutenant.
"As I looked back 20 years, I saw that it was a very imperial relationship we had with these people," said Franke in 1989. "We were young. We were there because we were told to be there and that they were the enemy. This time I saw them as human beings who had fears and hopes the same as we."
Yet he evidently cannot forgive John Kerry for reaching the same conclusion about that war and its victims, so many years before he finally did. |
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colmurph Ensign
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 74 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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He may have come to the same conclusions as "Hanoi John" Kerry but at least he did not sit before Congress and tell lies, and label every Vietnam Veteran as a "War Criminal". His medals are probably real also, unlike Kerry's "Bogus" Purple Hearts".
Kerry has yet to apologize to the Vietnam Veterans for his slurs.
I'm a Vietnam Vet and you can bet your 4th point of contact, that I won't be voting for him. |
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Craig Guest
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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colmurph wrote: | He may have come to the same conclusions as "Hanoi John" Kerry but at least he did not sit before Congress and tell lies, and label every Vietnam Veteran as a "War Criminal". His medals are probably real also, unlike Kerry's "Bogus" Purple Hearts".
Kerry has yet to apologize to the Vietnam Veterans for his slurs.
I'm a Vietnam Vet and you can bet your 4th point of contact, that I won't be voting for him. |
People keep telling me that as if they thought it important to me who they vote for.
It is not important to me who you vote for. |
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fortdixlover Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 1476
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Vietnam investor behind the "Swift Boat Vets&qu |
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Craig wrote: | http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/05/14/gannon/index.html
The Vietnam investor behind the "Swift Boat Vets" attack
The group attacking Kerry for his antiwar record is backed by a wealthy veteran who's profiting from his business ties to the Communist regime.
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The DNC is getting scared by this website. |
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d19thdoc PO3
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 280 Location: New Jersey Shore
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Why do some people think that changing the subject or attacking the opponent is some kind of answer? Maybe they understand what Cicero taught: "If your argument lacks merit, attack your opponent."
If Swift Boat veterans have succeeded in life, good for them. What has that got to do with John Kerry's behavior after Vietnam? Why are people who are allegedly Republicans supposed to be discredited because of that? What does doing business successfully in Vietnam in the 21st century have to do with the testimony of two hundred men who shared Kerry's war experience and who resent his slanders and have every right to question his character?
Are swift boat vets with some financial and technical clout supposed to sit this one out, lest they be accused of . . . what . . . what, exactly? I say thanks to them for again sacrificing for the good of our country.
These folks don't get it. This is not about the election. This is one last golden opportunity, special delivered to us by Kerry, for long-suffering Vietnam Vets to even the score with one of our most despised tormentors and turn-coats. _________________ For The Honor of the Fifty-Eight Thousand.
"He Can Lose, But He Can Not Hide" |
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sparky Former Member
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 546
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | "The DNC is getting scared by this website." |
Not at all. Outside of NewsMax, Frontpage Mag and the Moonie press, SBVT isn't getting much favorable attention nowadays. Do a googlenews search on it and see how much traction this group's point is getting.
Quote: | These folks don't get it. This is not about the election. This is one last golden opportunity, special delivered to us by Kerry, for long-suffering Vietnam Vets to even the score with one of our most despised tormentors and turn-coats. |
I believe you think this but I also believe you're being manipulated and your emotions exploited for the election.
Great article by Conason, Craig. Thanks! |
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Craig Guest
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="sparky"] Quote: |
Great article by Conason, Craig. Thanks! |
Welcome.
There is bunch of them here - but you gotta go through their nuisance adverts for a day pass - so I reserve a browser to accept cookes from a couple places.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/05/14/gannon/index.html
Is great hilarity to know already when one posts what replies one will get - hypocrisy and abuse the poster <whimper-whine> |
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hist/student Lieutenant
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 243
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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unabashed comprehensive retraction
Last edited by hist/student on Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:09 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Craig Guest
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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hist/student wrote: | Craig please, for my sanity, while you are cutting and pasteing these thousand word articles all over the place, at least have the clarity of mind to remove the advertising burried within the text.
A better Idea would be for you to actually come up with something to say on your own. You might , might find yourself actually learning something. |
Lying denigrations now. - Great!
Gotta love it when someone reduces their self so.
I think that you could find that most of my posting is not pasting.
<tsk tsk> |
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hist/student Lieutenant
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 12:01 am Post subject: |
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unabashed comprehensive retraction
Last edited by hist/student on Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:10 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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d19thdoc PO3
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 280 Location: New Jersey Shore
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 12:11 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | These folks don't get it. This is not about the election. This is one last golden opportunity, special delivered to us by Kerry, for long-suffering Vietnam Vets to even the score with one of our most despised tormentors and turn-coats. |
Sparky wrote:
"I believe you think this but I also believe you're being manipulated and your emotions exploited for the election."
Your paranormal insight into my emotional state and my malleability is truly impressive . Your comment also has absolutely nothing to do with anything, except to avoid the issue . . . which is the meaninglessness of Conason's article, and the real motives of the Swift Vets, which I fully understand and applaud. _________________ For The Honor of the Fifty-Eight Thousand.
"He Can Lose, But He Can Not Hide" |
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fortdixlover Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 12:20 am Post subject: |
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sparky wrote: | Not at all. Outside of NewsMax, Frontpage Mag and the Moonie press, SBVT isn't getting much favorable attention nowadays. Do a googlenews search on it and see how much traction this group's point is getting. |
It ain't articles from the LeftMedia about this site, as indexed by google news, that the DNC is worried about. It's the increasing traffic this site is receiving, especially from military folks. For example, Iraqi bloggers are becoming aware of it and are spreading the word to their people and the troops who they have befriended. They feel Kerry will abandon them to the savage Baathist remnants and Al Queda, and they are interested in preventing that from happening.
sparky wrote: | I believe you think this but I also believe you're being manipulated and your emotions exploited for the election. |
Sparky, thank God the military has concerned citizens like you to set them straight. What would we do without you?! |
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Craig Guest
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 12:40 am Post subject: |
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hist/student wrote: | Dude, as a farmer I have not had the pleasure of reading all of your posts. Truelly you have a dubious quantity of them.
In the few posts I have read, of yours I would make a quick estimation of about 15k words which you've just lifted from highly questionable sources.
Salon .com is not a reputable source for substanative information other then Movie, cooking and sex advice. For my own education I Have read salon at great length and found it to be a huge waste of time.
If you want fairly acurately portrayed news look to buisness oriented press. The Economist and The Wall Street Journal come to mind.
As far as me puting out 'lieing denegrations', considering the source I'll take that as a compliment..... |
Yet you knew enough about my posts to be making spurious accusation about the bulk of them?
You say that the site is not a repuatble source of information tather than to deal with the veracity of the information given.
I read some right wing bigoted news as well as some left ing bigoted news and quite a bit in between. I must say that the left wing nutcases are generally more funny than the right wing ones.
It is good that you take that as a compliment. It is about the best I can offer. |
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hist/student Lieutenant
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 1:30 am Post subject: |
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unabashed comprehensive retraction
Last edited by hist/student on Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:10 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Craig Guest
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 1:39 am Post subject: |
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hist/student wrote: | Dude (craig) I see we've made allot of headway here.
quoting you "Yet you knew enough about my posts to be making spurious accusation about the bulk of them?"
I state quite clearly, planely and simply that I have not read all your posts.... clearly, planely and simply that infers I cannot make a analysis of 'the bulk of them'.... only what I've read, which as I said is full of tens of thousands of lifted words.
So taking this all into account, why don't you tell me what you're actually up to here??
Could it be you and sparkless are attempting to deluge the site with enough boulubaise to make it difficult for the averege schmo to navigate around and see what these fine men have written.....
You under estimate your enemy (the averege american schmo) the whole nation is waking up to the presence of your ilk and dude the chickens are gonna be coming home to roost...... |
Had you wished some civil exchange you could have had a go at talking honestly and like a grownup.
But I can suppose that you are making your best attempt. |
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