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Cazador Lt.Jg.
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 113
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:24 pm Post subject: New Allies for Swift Boat Vets? |
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Hi,
It seems that JK is getting other groups up in arms as well and this means an opportunity to cooporate exists.
See the following column and pay attention to the last paragraph:
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200402180840.asp
"The thing that got a few of us crawling out from under a rock, at no instigation from the White House, was that Guard service was being portrayed as being like a draft dodger."
Are there any National Guard groups to contact? I suspect there are.
Have they heard about this comment?
Perhaps they too would like to voice their opinion or at least support their fellow vets.
So, am I way of base (no pun intended) on this? Would Swifties see these folks as less than military? I would hope not.
Just a thought...
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4moreyears Former Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Bush and National Guard have nothing to apologize for...kerry should apologize to the Guard and Bush. _________________ kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam. |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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4moreyears wrote: | Bush and National Guard have nothing to apologize for...kerry should apologize to the Guard and Bush. |
AMEN!
National Guard and Reserve service is perfectly honorable, but it's obviously "beneath" Kerry's notice.
He certainly isn't acknowledging the fact that the President did, indeed, volunteer to go to Vietnam along with three other people from his unit.
The two members with the most flight time were chosen. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother |
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Beatrice1000 Resource Specialist
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 1179 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Navy_Navy_Navy wrote: | 4moreyears wrote: | Bush and National Guard have nothing to apologize for...kerry should apologize to the Guard and Bush. |
AMEN! National Guard and Reserve service is perfectly honorable, but it's obviously "beneath" Kerry's notice. |
Same Kerry special code of honor that insults all our allies around the world by dismissing them because they are not France.... Some with only 10 soldiers to offer - but their heart is in it ! And for some time, with his dismissal of the Guard by attacking Bush's service -- with a wave of the hand, "well, that's not worth anything!" "I was John Wayne!! All you did was fly a plane."
I've been wondering when the Guard would call Mr Kerry to account.... I hope soon -- we can't give that man a pass anymore..... |
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stylin19 Lt.Jg.
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 122
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Most all of Kerry's military records refer to him as USNR.
The problem is, it is Terry Mcawful who's been slamming the guard and reserves.
Sen. Kerry has been relativley silent on it. _________________ U.S.M.C. - 1969-1971
RVN- 1970-1971 |
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carpro Admin
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, it is almost impossible for active duty Guardsmen and Reservists to speak out.
Maybe retirees could fire away. It would be nice to hear from some of them. _________________ "If he believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service." |
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sparky 36 Seaman Recruit
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 29 Location: Az.
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:06 am Post subject: |
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I am , was active army and then air guard for 37 years, I take great offense to the people who decry our mission. _________________ The truth is the truth!! |
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4moreyears Former Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Beatrice1000 wrote: | Navy_Navy_Navy wrote: | 4moreyears wrote: | Bush and National Guard have nothing to apologize for...kerry should apologize to the Guard and Bush. |
AMEN! National Guard and Reserve service is perfectly honorable, but it's obviously "beneath" Kerry's notice. |
Same Kerry special code of honor that insults all our allies around the world by dismissing them because they are not France.... Some with only 10 soldiers to offer - but their heart is in it ! And for some time, with his dismissal of the Guard by attacking Bush's service -- with a wave of the hand, "well, that's not worth anything!" "I was John Wayne!! All you did was fly a plane."
I've been wondering when the Guard would call Mr Kerry to account.... I hope soon -- we can't give that man a pass anymore..... |
BEATRICE 1000......Remember one thing "it ain't the size of the dog in the fight ... it's the size of the fight in the dog". _________________ kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam. |
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Beatrice1000 Resource Specialist
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:34 am Post subject: |
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[quote="4moreyears"] BEATRICE 1000......Remember one thing "it ain't the size of the dog in the fight ... it's the size of the fight in the dog".
Having lived with a West Highland White Terrier for years, DON'T I KNOW IT!! |
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Wing Wiper Rear Admiral
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 664 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:10 am Post subject: |
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sparky 36
I would hope it would offend you. I wonder who some people think supply the manpower to defend the airspace over the United States? Who gets called out to help during natural disasters and riots? There are a lot of very experienced and dedicated people serving in the Guard units, giving up their weekends and vacation time for peanuts (usually) for their country. Thanks. |
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