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justamom Lt.Jg.
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 135
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:58 pm Post subject: Kerry at VFW/Cincinnati today, but |
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Exactly WHY would he go there? Is he/they really THAT stupid? He really isn't aware of how the VFW feels about him?
VFW recalls Kerry's anti-war past
By Ralph Z. Hallow
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
The Veteran of Foreign Wars made it clear yesterday that it is none too pleased with Sen. John Kerry's 1970s role in the defunct Vietnam Veterans Against the War, which, at the time, called the VFW a "a paramilitary, pro-war organization" out of touch with young veterans.
Mr. Kerry was VVAW's chief spokesman during the early 1970s and is slated to make a campaign pitch today in Cincinnati to the annual convention of the VFW.
But in 1971, Mr. Kerry's anti-war group denounced the VFW as a war-mongering lobby responsible for getting the United States into the Vietnam War and harbored hopes of perhaps replacing the VFW as a veterans' group.
"We will not quickly join those who march on Veterans Day waving small flags, calling to memory those thousands who died for the 'greater glory of the United States.' ... We will not readily join the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars," he wrote then.
A 1971 VVAW fund-raising letter, titled "Men of Peace" and signed "yours in peace," accused the VFW and the American Legion of promoting an agenda of "world domination."
The letter suggests that Mr. Kerry's group might replace both the VFW and the American Legion, which it said "have not been able, at the national level in the past five years, to recruit successfully among the younger veterans. These younger veterans are obviously not content with a paramilitary, pro-war organization representing them. We are their answer."
The VVAW letter suggests to potential donors that the dissident group could in time diversify and offer benefits similar what the VFW and the American Legion were offering, "but with a view toward total world peace rather than world domination."
In response to that claim, Mr. Newberry, the VFW spokesman, said yesterday: "We have 1.8 million members, this is our 105th annual convention and, again, where ... are the Vietnam Veterans Against the War? And quote me on that." |
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Redview Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 88 Location: indiana
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:06 pm Post subject: Well, we shall see. |
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I think a lot hinges on the response here.
If this gets little to no response, It will build Kerrys already
huge ego.
I sure hope the response is at least so visual, that Kerry
gets a real wake up call, cause I think he is in a little denial here.
That this whole thing is going to be handled with a little work.
Of course I think he gets fed this on a routine basis.
I hope it's enough, that the media take notice.
I will be listening, I hope it's impossable to go unnoticed. |
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low26 Lieutenant
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 219 Location: Chicago il
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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I hope something obvious happens, I tend to believe the VFW will take the high ground and be cautious. But I don't know there are allot of bad feelings out there about J Fing Kerry it would be great if the reception was cold as hell |
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Son Of The Godfather Captain
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 540 Location: Camarillo, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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This is THE prime opportunity.
The first part of his speech should reveal how Kerry can stand in a room with the VFW after accusing them of attrocities.
There must be certain (visually) and lasting dissention at this event, and it has to be undeniable enough to make the news, all news.
SOTG _________________ "Which candidate would enemies of the United States prefer to see in the White House?" |
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skygod325 Seaman Recruit
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 31 Location: Haverhill, MA
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I tend to think the only reason the VFW would let Kerry speak is to humilate him, and justfiably so. I am a memeber of the VFW and I can assure you he will get a cool reception at the very least and he will probally be booed of stage. _________________ "All the Way!" |
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hanna Rear Admiral
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like a small number of very loud people. |
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You GottaBeKidding Rear Admiral
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 692
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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lukewarm applause |
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Son Of The Godfather Captain
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 540 Location: Camarillo, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Service members deserve RESPECT when they come home?
WHAT THE &$*&!!!!
Can we rewind that? About 35 years?
SOTG _________________ "Which candidate would enemies of the United States prefer to see in the White House?" |
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You GottaBeKidding Rear Admiral
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 692
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Liar!!!!!
He just said he'd supported vets for 35 years. Liar, liar, liar. |
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manelly PO3
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 294 Location: AZ
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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I'm detecting some very nervous bidy language from Kerry...
Does any one else ? Or Is it just wishful thinking on my part? _________________ Enlighten the people, generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like spirits at the dawn of day.
- Thomas Jefferson |
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kmmpatriot Lt.Jg.
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 146
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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manelly - No, I think it is clear he knows he isn't "preaching to the choir" in this particluar venue.... |
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Polaris Rear Admiral
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 626
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Darn it! Doesn't the VFW understand how this game is played?!
There can't be any applause or Kerry wins. _________________ -Polaris
Truth is Beauty |
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hanna Rear Admiral
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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This guy lives in his own fantay land. Do you notice, no wide shots? Will be interesting to see how it looks when he is done speaking. |
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stealthy Lieutenant
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 237
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Is there any evidence that he visited veterans in hospitals after he returned?
"I didn't make the War controversial". Liar.
He's only getting boiler plate statement applause. _________________ American Conservative |
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Navymomx2 Lt.Jg.
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 149 Location: Washington
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Son Of The Godfather wrote: | Service members deserve RESPECT when they come home?
WHAT THE &$*&!!!!
Can we rewind that? About 35 years?
SOTG |
SOTG,
My sentiments exactly!!! MY BP is going up listening to this.............., I am so sick of him bashing Mission Accomplished.
Grrrrrr!!!! |
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