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CJ · Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 6:38 pm Post subject: Kerry's Record

That is a good point about the award service times. I had not looked at that. Unfortunately, the paperwork to apply for the awards has not been released.

I am not sure if it is significant, but the released records show that Kerry requested release from active service on 24 Nov 69, not 3 Jan 70 as documented in his site. 3 Jan 70 was his release date, not 1 Mar 70 documented on his site. Very sloppy work.

I also find it interesting that he would be promoted to full LT 2 weeks after the orders to release him before his release and 2 days before release.

In addtion, page 1 of the Fitness Report dated 18 Dec 69 is missing.

Food for thought.

FYI: I am collecting links to Vietnam related site at www.sportsmenforkerry.com/links.htm#vietnam. Any suggestions are appreciated.

CJ · Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject: Correction

Corrections integrated into previous. Sloppy work on my part.

K9vietvet · Seaman Recruit Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 4

As a 20 year military vet, I am aware of who is "suppose" to recommend and/or write PH's. As senior officer on the swiftboat, Kerry would have recommended his subordinates for any citations. he likely recommended himself for those "serious" injuries that he received. Personnaly, I am convinced that her did. I received wounds that required 17 days in the hospital at Long Binh, but never asked for nor received a PH. Kerry got THREE without a single day in the hospital. I don't in any way feel slighted nor do I feel I should get a PH 33 years later, but I sure do consider his 3 quite cheap. I'm also not a politician.

carpro · Admin Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas

Can an officer write himself up for a silver star? Or can he make a deal with his top enlisted man? A tit for tat sort of thing.
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K9vietvet · Seaman Recruit Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 4

A "FULL" disclosure of documents would be beneficial in this case. It seems Kerry has chosen to release select documents that reinforce that he was some sort of a "hero". Hopefully, he will be pressured into releasing ALL of the docs at some point. It's not real likely, but am confident it would shed some light on the matter and reveal the truth. It's really sad that a guy like this can actually cheapen the term "hero" like he has.

The bandit · Commander Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 349

Would the fact all three of Kerry's PH certificates were signed on August 12, 1969 raise any eyebrows?

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colmurph · Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 5:08 pm Post subject:

mikest · PO2 Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 377

But there were "bullets flying around." The boats were under heavy fire at the time Kerry pulled the man out of the water.

CJ · Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject: Stars and Vs.

That is all and fine. My question is, with a man overboard, what would have been the reaction if John had ordered not to go back because of the fire?

And while we are at it, is this medal supposed to excuse his behavior for the following 30+ years?

Not to belittle any award winner, but I don't think a Congressional Medal of Honor should move you up to Presidential Candidate:

Other Bronze Star award winners in history:
Timothy McVeigh - executed for the OK City bombing
J Fife Symington - former Gov. AZ convicted of defrauding lenders as a real estate developer, pardoned by Clinton.

betsyross18 · Seaman Recruit Joined: 19 May 2004 Posts: 10

betsyross18 · Seaman Recruit Joined: 19 May 2004 Posts: 10

Warthog · Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 3:33 am Post subject:

My service record includes a copy of the OM authorizing the PH for me and the other five Navy Corpsmen in 1st Mardiv who were wounded on the same day in I Corps. I didn't know this until after I got out of the service two years later.

I would think that Kerry could produce some similar indicia.

Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

It seems to be highly probable that, when rebuffed in his initial attempt to have himself awarded the first PH, he delayed the submission until he had been re-assigned to another unit. He had all the documentation he needed and, not being familiar with the nature of his "wound", any subsequent commander would have been hard-pressed not to submit it.

Nor would they be familiar with the allegation by the treating physician that he had been told by 2 members of that same mission that Kerry's "wound" was not the result of enemy action, but was, instead, self-inflicted.