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GIJoel2 · Ensign Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 59

His appearence on Hannity and Colmes would have been the perfect opportunity to take Kerry up on his "Bring It On" comment directed to George Bush. As I have said before, Bush is neither qualified nor has he earned the right to debate Kerry's war record...Kerry knows this, thus the disingenuous "challenge." The Swifties, on the other hand, are well qualified (and more importantly) they have earned the right to accept Kerry's phony "bring it on" invitation. I emailed and emailed them. The Swifties need to become more savvy about rapidly using Kerry's statements and "challenges" against him. Had O'neill accepted Kerry's challenge, the silence from the Kerry camp would have been deafening. When Kerry's advisors finally finished peeing their pants and issued a statement, they would have no choice but to decline the challenge, thus forever putting the Kerry campaign on the defensive.

Lily · Lieutenant Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 244

O'Neill was asked a week ago on Hannity and Colmes whether he would debate John Kerry, he said he would. The problem is there is no way that Kerry would debate O'Neill, as O'Neill would demolish him.

MikeGranby · Seaman Recruit Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 26

The only people presidential candidates debate is other presidential candidates. While I'd love to see O'Neil demolish Kerry, it ain't going to happen.

cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

Tom Poole · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:47 am Post subject: Why didn't...

From my brief exposure to Mr. O'Neill, he's not usually given to braggadocios oratory. Additionally, I believe it's much too early for the victory swagger. Recall that Bush still trails Kerry in substantial numbers in three of the swing states (Wisconsin, Ohio & ...uh-forgot). I believe Swiftees should stay the course determinedly and forget about celebrations until the President calls.
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Curt · Lt.Jg. Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Eastern NC

O'Neil is a standup guy. Hell I would vote for him in political office. You will see more of him on tv and I am sure you will see him tackle alot more issues. To me he is the best spokesperson with SBVFT. Thurlow is too normal..lol.. Very Happy

.. He tripped over alot of words as I myself would do. Dont get me wrong. I respect him to the fullest and he is doing what he fills right. I am not saying otherwise.

Curt

cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

With the Cambodian Christmas, the CIA secret missions, the medals quandry, and now the LONG hour and a half operation to rig the -3 boat for towing (if they were in a hot firefight, you'd think someone might suggest unassing the AO!) ... There is some good news for Kerry. He saved 15% by switching to GEICO!
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MikeGranby · Seaman Recruit Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 26

Tom Poole · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:54 am Post subject: Why...

I agree, he's the best Swiftee and thus far has won every confrontation. However, don't forget about the enormous coffers they are able to throw at the problem. I saw the amount of $62 million being bandied about -- wow! Stay the course. Many of us non-Swiftees support you completely.
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GIJoel2 · Ensign Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 59

The point is, Kerry issued the challenge, O'neill could have accepted the challenge, and then could pound and pound on the fact that Kerry is dodging him. He could also point out that this is typical of Kerry. That is, Kerry has spent his whole life setting up strawmen to knock down. He did when he lied about Vietnam (under oath), he did it when he lied about the Swifties, and he's doing it now by challenging Bush to a debate he knows nothing about. As I have said before, Kerry "Bring It On" challenge to Bush is like challenging the head of the FDA to a debate about foreign policy. This has nothing to do with being braggadocious, it's all about holding Kerry accountable for his actions and statments.

Beldar · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 77

John Kerry is a prime example of the species Lawyerus Politico.

John O'Neill is a prime example of the species Lawyerus Courtroom-Ferocious.

The two species are mutually exclusive of one another, and in an honest debate the latter can eat the former alive. But the latter has no interest in inhabiting the caves of the former, which tend to be filled with the former's own droppings and an excess of hot air.

4moreyears · Former Member Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 591

GIJoel2 · Ensign Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 59

BTW, I think O'neill is an excellent speaker and VERY courageous. Overall they are doing an excellent job. But opportunities like Kerry's "Bring It On" challenge cannot be ignored. Statements like these are like an overripe fruit hanging down on a bended branch.

Go Swifties!!!

cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

When was the LAST time (in recent history, please) that a Presidential Candidate DEBATED a non-Presidential candidate during the election season?

I can't recall a single instance, but then again, I need sleep.
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GIJoel2 · Ensign Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 59

Bush can't debate Kerry on Vietnam because he wasn't there. This is between Kerry and the Swifties. They are the eye witnesses. What's Bush going to do during the debate, read O'neill's book to Kerry?