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NavyChief · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:07 am Post subject: deleted

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kmudd · Master Chief Petty Officer Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 825

WOw great letter. Very logical and well explained.

Leslie · Seaman Recruit Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 21

This is what the MSM needs -- the military perspective. You should send this to more than just WaPo.
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Nomorelies · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:37 am Post subject:

Send the letter. Laughing

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cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

Nice, clean analysis, Chief.

Not to rain on your parade (far be it from me to criticize a chief, he might have a daughter in the Marines...) However, I'd live out the "editorial bias" in the last four paragraphs. It makes the analysis seem partisan, and it is FAR better than that. It is FACTUAL. As Joe Friday would say "Just the facts...."

Clean it up to take out the "hot words" (as "stinks terribly", and "such a great skipper", etc.) and you'll have a dynamite piece.

V/R
cipher (who's dad was a Navy chaplain in WWII)
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J. Toy · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:45 am Post subject:

Well done Chief! Excellent research and analysis.

Your information should give Mr. Dobbs, and hopefully others in the media some evidence to pursue this further, and ultimately lead to Kerry facing this.

I seriously doubt that he will ever sign the 180 form because of the incriminating evidence that he knows is there.

Again, great job!
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cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

And one other question I'd like to see you analyse, if you would be so kind.

Kerry's own statement (see below) indicates when the inexplicable explosion occured, he made a "high speed turn to starboard" (emphasis added), which appears to me would have run him aground from his position at the right side of the fishing weir. This anomaly has yet to be satisfactorily explained, to the best of my knowledge.

(edited to include the reference)

Sen. Kerry's Statement On THe Senate Floor As a Eulogy For Mr. Thomas Belodeau.

"There was the time we were carrying special forces up a river and a mine exploded under our boat sending it 2 feet into the air. We were receiving incoming rocket and small arms fire and Tommy was returning fire with his M-60 machine gun when it literally broke apart in his hands. He was left holding the pieces unable to fire back while one of the Green Berets walked along the edge of the boat to get Tommy another M-60. As he was doing so, the boat made a high speed turn to starboard and the Green Beret kept going--straight into the river. The entire time while the boat went back to get the Green Beret, Tommy was without a machine gun or a weapon of any kind, but all the time he was hurling the greatest single string of Lowell-Chelmsford curses ever heard at the Viet Cong. He literally had swear words with tracers on them!'

FURTHER:

The WaPo graphic shows LT Rassmann on the STARBOARD side of the boat. If the boat made a "high speed turn to starboard", inertia would have pinned him to side the wheel house, and NOT pitched him into the water. One more "inconsistency" in an ever-growing implausible chain of events.
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Navy wife · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:57 am Post subject:

Chief,
I applaud your letter and hope you will send it off tonight. I do agree with Cipher and hope you will take all remarks out that are inflammatory. I know I have that tendency when I feel impassioned about the subject and have a tough time reigning in my emotions. However, Cipher gave you sound advice.

Once you send that in, I hope you will spash it every where! Send it as a letter to the editor at the Washington Post!

Truegrit · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:02 am Post subject: Good job NavyChief

NavyChief,

Great letter to Dobbs, to set the record straight.

Ted
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ord33 · Rear Admiral Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 670 Location: Ohio

Chief,

Great analysis, definitely worth sending!

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

Daaaaang, Instigator!

Can you still type after all that?????

Way to go!!!
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NavyChief · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:17 am Post subject:

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cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

Chief, that's MUCH better, with the edits. Even with the *zinger*. You're a chief, you're not only entitled, it's in your genes.

I think you're ready for Prime Time.
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jwb7605 · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:25 am Post subject:

Unfortunately, for such a great piece of investigation, there is one teeny weenie little problem, which I'm sorry to admit I noticed right off the bat.

"Instigator" seems to be from Texas.

No way will MSM let that slide.
"Another link to Bush-Cheny demands retractions"

If that's not a problem, launch the ready bird.

cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902