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You GottaBeKidding Rear Admiral
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:27 am Post subject: |
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The good news is that if all the Dim strategists are as dim as they appear to be, the strategy is going to be pretty lame. |
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IpsoFacto Seaman
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 163
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:27 am Post subject: |
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HE SHOWED THE FORM AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
Was that scripted? Cause they went to commercial inmediately!!  |
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Nomorelies Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 977 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Scarborough just doesn't get it. He is not the brightest star in the sky. He just gave this unsolicited advice to the Kerry Campaign, "Kerry needs to get in George Bush's face." Good grief. It's not George Bush. It's the SwiftVets you fool! If you would read the book, read the articles you would see that President Bush can't stop this train from rolling. It's picking up steam and neither George W. Bush nor John Kerry can stop it. Kerry, Sign the darned 180 and release your records. Millions of vets and their families hate your guts. That's the real deal. _________________ Nomorelies Make a donation HERE |
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IpsoFacto Seaman
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Kerry's hope was that by using the major media's articles trying to debunk the vets allegations they would dissipate the explosion that this is becoming (Almost as large as a nuke by now), but this thing is steaming up!!  |
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4moreyears Former Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:33 am Post subject: |
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I think Deroy has visited here a few times...he sure knows our sentiments.
kerry sign the Standard Form 180 _________________
kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam. |
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MarcB Ensign
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 58 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:33 am Post subject: |
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tvaughan wrote: | Is it me, or has Scarborough more than once implied that BUSH is responsible for Swift Vets?
I don't think Scarborough gets it at all. No follow up, nothing. Or is he just still new at this and pretty weak? |
yes he did
Why is it so easy for them to think of moveon.org as not tied the sKerry campaign? Its real easy people SBVT is a 527 and it would be illegal to coordinate. It would also be illegal for ACT and moveon.
my $.02
Marc _________________ "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last."
- Winston Churchill, on Neville Chamberlain
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tvaughan Seaman
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Scarborough didn't read the book. A lot of these people didn't read the book or even the most cursory research.
How long before they figure out they need to read the book or at least have command of basic information of the events in question. _________________ Talking point #1: Sign 180
Talking point #2: Sign 180
Talking point #3: Sign 180 |
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ccr Commander
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 325
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:34 am Post subject: |
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If the strategy is to attack GWB for his service, this thing is over.
The strategists are two steps behind. They have just started to try to refute the charges in the first ad and haven't even begun to address the winter soldier charges.
Kerry is going to have to deal with those head on or he is done. _________________ Whose side is John Kerry really on? Take this quiz and decide for yourself.
http://www.learnthat.com/quiz/
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jack white Seaman
Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 179
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Two observations: the Washington types cannot believe a grassroots 527 would not coordinate with its candidate. I think this is because of the degree of (probably illegal) coordination there has been between the Kerry campaign and the left-wing 527s. It took a long time for the MSM to realize this wasn't a Kerry front, and the politicians are lagging behind. This accounts for some of Scarborough's apparent ignorance.
Second, it is difficult to always keep in mind, but these people are not as well versed in the facts because they aren't as intimately involved in the story. They eventually will get up to speed.
Kerry's people, by the way, are scared to death about this commercial that goes up tomorrow. I mean as in terrified. |
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WallaceNails Seaman Apprentice
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:43 am Post subject: |
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What commercial goes up tomorrow? a 3rd one? _________________
FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!! |
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Scott Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 1603 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:45 am Post subject: |
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The second ad will begin broadcasting tomorrow. Thus far, it has been reported on; no purchased advertising time has been used. _________________ Bye bye, Boston Straggler! |
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Dragoro Lt.Jg.
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 122 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:46 am Post subject: |
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Nomorelies wrote: | Scarborough just doesn't get it. He is not the brightest star in the sky. He just gave this unsolicited advice to the Kerry Campaign, "Kerry needs to get in George Bush's face." Good grief. It's not George Bush. It's the SwiftVets you fool! If you would read the book, read the articles you would see that President Bush can't stop this train from rolling. It's picking up steam and neither George W. Bush nor John Kerry can stop it. Kerry, Sign the darned 180 and release your records. Millions of vets and their families hate your guts. That's the real deal. |
Your right that it aint bush doing the attacking, but Joe is right, if Kerry is going to turn the tables on Bush, hes got to go after Bush, and get the lime light off himself. Will he? Not a Chance. Im feeling better and better every day about a Bush victory this fall. |
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mmgoff Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:48 am Post subject: |
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Murdock's article said that Bush hasn't signed the 180 either. I was under the impression that he had. I can't stomach Kerry, but if we're all calling for Kerry to sign, Bush should also. |
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carpro Admin
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:53 am Post subject: |
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mmgoff wrote: | Murdock's article said that Bush hasn't signed the 180 either. I was under the impression that he had. I can't stomach Kerry, but if we're all calling for Kerry to sign, Bush should also. |
What article is that MM? _________________ "If he believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service." |
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thorrell Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:59 am Post subject: |
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I don't think Bush has signed a Form 180.
BUT, I read somewhere that the Executive Order he gave releasing his records had the same effect.
I do know that an FOIA Request on Bush give you over 200+ pages.
Kerry's give you six! |
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