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MarkRock · Seaman Recruit Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 16

Polaris is absolutely right.

The Kerry-Edwards campaign announced right around the time of the Democrat Convention that they would "go dark" until early September (when Bush received the GOP nomination).

But now that the story surrounding Kerry versus the SBVT has pierced the mainstream media blackout and it is damaging Kerry's standing in the polls (especially among Veterans), Kerry has decided to start running ads about a week and a half before they had planned.

Take away Kerry's phony war hero status and what does he have? A 19 year US Senate voting record that demonstrates that he votes to cut intelligence spending and defense spending.

As someone who has made a small contribution to the SBVT campaign, I don't want the SBVT to do anything except tell the truth about what Kerry did in Vietnam and what he did to smear Vietnam Vets once he left Vietnam.

Bush-Cheney aren't going to raise these issues. But you can bet that POWs and others are not going to go quietly as Jane Fonda in pants attempts to become our commander in chief.

minnie presley · Commander Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 307

I hope you guys are rght, I cannot sleep at nite worrying about him being president, last nite, late foxnews reported that since the ad came out,200,000 vetss have come to support kerry, the public is easily misled , I am afraid theu are going to vote for him regardless, fox also showed yesterday that his is leading in most states bush 211 electoral votes kerry 300+ I know that this site is not political, but kerry can not be president, or it will be veitnam all over again

Frank B · Ensign Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 58 Location: Montana

The media just recently got involved and interested in any investigatory reporting of Kerry's military record and anti-war activities. More and more is becoming known about Kerry that the public in general is not aware of, thanks to the efforts of the folks here and at other veteran sites. But we have to stay active and keep emailing them to point out the discrepancies in their reporting and demand they get the facts straight versus just putting their personal spins on the matter.
I just fired off an email to Brit Hume asking him to moderate a forum of anti and pro Kerry Swifties to try and get thru the smoke and flak. If Kerry doesn't have the stones to answer the tough questions and quit blaming Bush for his problems than we need to demand answers from his lackeys, NOT a couple of Army spokesmen like Rassmann and Hurley, the bombthrower. What the hell is the media doing giving them a soapbox? Neither of them can relate to the Swift Boat missions and Rassmann barely knew Kerry (BTW, I STILL want to know why he was on the boat).
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LeastofThese · Seaman Recruit Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 20

cgc · Seaman Recruit Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 47

Yahoo news is reporting Bob Dole is questioning Kerry's purple hearts and the fact that Kerry has attempted to make his 4 months in Viet Nam a centerpiece of his run for president. Dols is saying what does Kerry expect, He blasted all of his Fellow Veterans in 1971 with his lying testimony and now he wants us to elect him CIC? Yea Right! Dole also said that The three purple hearts were earned without the loss of any blood, time in the hospital, missed duty etc. Senator Dole's ******** filter has sorted out the **** from the shinola. There is over TWO MILLION Vets from that era, so what is Kerry has 200,000. I say Kerry's ******** has finally caught up with him.

CGC Swift Boat Veteran, 68-69 An Toi, Danang, Swift Crew 6C

dhanson · Seaman Recruit Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 2

This whole issue has done one really good thing, if nothing else. It's taken the 'Vietnam card' away from Kerry in the debates. I was dreading the debates because I was just waiting for Kerry to take a shot at Bush about not going to Vietnam, and using that to neutralize any criticism of his own record. Now he doesn't dare bring Vietnam into the discussion, because Bush will have some ammo to throw back on him. So now when Bush attacks Kerry's record on intelligence, the military, and security, Kerry won't have a riposte against Bush.

srmorton · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:54 am Post subject:

I would be very interested in knowing where that 200,000
number came from. I live in an area where there are thousands of
active duty and retired Marine and Navy personnel and I would have
to look hard to find 200 that support Kerry. We here in NC (despite
the polls) don't think much of John Edwards either and it would take
a complete collapse of the Bush campaign for Kerry-Edwards to
win this state in November!
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ProudMilitaryWifeDaughter · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 78

My husband has been strongly Democratic since the first time he voted. I couldnt get him to view this site at first so I played the media from the SBVT which was over an hour long and made sure the speakers were turned up. The next day he mentioned some things he heard from my computer vs what was on the news. He now is a registered Republican this week.

Dont get me wrong either I vote either way depending on who I think would do the best job and consider myself in the middle when it comes to politics.

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manofaiki · Former Member Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 96

The media will try to spin this just like they did things that made Carter and Clinton look stupid in the 70's and 90's.

Carter got away with some really dumb stuff and like Sean Hannity I am constantly amazed at how much damage he did to this country and it's interests in just ONE term.

Clinton got pass after pass after pass because the internet was just coming into it's own and Fox news was just starting up. Can you imagine how FBI Filegate, the Travel Officegate and Chinagate would play out if they happned today? The illegal fundraising activites that Sen. Fred Dalton Thompson tried to look into where about half the witnesses fled the country and the other half pled the Fifth Amendment and Janet Reno just yawned and ignored the whole thing? And the mainstream media acted like this was all one big waste of time? They could never get away with that stuff now.

In the past the Dem's would spin stuff and there was nobody to call them on it. Remember when the Republicans got control of the Congress for the first time in over 40 years during the midterms of 1992? And they cut the projected spending increases for school lunches from (from memory here) 10% to 5%? And Tom Daschle and Richard Gephardt did photo ops on the Capital steps surrounded by school kids talking about how the mean Republicans were trying to starve our children? They continually claimed it was an actual reduction of spending, not a cut of projected spending increases in the next few years.

And the media helped Daschle and Gephardt do it. Over and over again the media pretended the money spent on school lunches was being cut when only the spending increases planned for the future had been reduced.

And they GOT AWAY WITH IT. That is just one example of how the compliant media aided the party they favored.

Now they throw out figures like 200,000 Veterans For Kerry! and expect people to believe it.

I sincerely doubt 200,000 Vietnam Veterans are going to support Kerry.

manofaiki
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You bugged out in Vietnam - so we don't need you commanding us in the War on Terror!

So get lost, John Kerry!!!!!

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

Actually, I just read some statistics last week that said there were 26-28 Million veterans in the country, 6-8 Million of them from the Vietnam era.

JUST the Vietnam era vets could lose this war for Kerry if their might was mobilized on voting day.

Add in the older and younger brother and sister vets and their families - get them educated as to the truth and JUST the vets in this country could cause a landslide.
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ArmyWife · Lieutenant Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 218

sevry · Commander Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 326

air_vet · PO2 Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 374

I'm sure the Bush campaign folks know how to pitch THEIR ads. What THEY do, or don't do, isn't an issue here.

Let's keep our focus>>> candidate Kerry's activities related to Vietnam.

minnie presley · Commander Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 307

just watching foxnews, monday morning, they had a dem senator and another dem back to back, and they both called the vets a bunch of liars, the senator from ny was really nasty, and kerry is calling them liars, fox just keeps repeating it we need to get someone to respond, also pretty boy edwards is calling for the ad to be pulled