SwiftVets.com

[Hesiod]

"The two military intelligence soldiers, assigned interrogation duties at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, were young, relatively new to the Army and had only one day of training on how to pry information from high-value prisoners.

But almost immediately on their arrival in Iraq, say the two members of the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade, they recognized that what was happening around them was wrong, morally and legally.

They said in interviews Friday and yesterday that the abuses were not caused by a handful of rogue soldiers poorly supervised and lacking morals but resulted from failures that went beyond the low-ranking military police charged with abuse.

The beatings, the two soldiers said, were meted out with the full knowledge of intelligence interrogators, who let military police know which prisoners were cooperating with them and which were not.

"I was told, 'Don't worry about it - they probably deserved it,'" one of the soldiers said in an interview, referring to complaints he made while trying to persuade the Army to investigate. "I was appalled."

The two soldiers are the first from a military intelligence unit known to speak publicly about what happened at Abu Ghraib, and they are the first from such a unit to contend publicly that some interrogators were complicit in the abuses. The soldiers stressed that not all interrogators were involved.

The soldiers were interviewed together Friday in person and then separately yesterday by telephone. They said they had alerted superiors at Abu Ghraib and the Army's Criminal Investigations Division by November or early December of prisoners being beaten, stripped naked and paraded in front of other inmates."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/iraq/bal-te.guard09may09,0,2917335,print.story?coll=bal-home-headlines

God help them if they ever decide to run for office. Some of their "fellow veterans" might decide to smear them and accuse them of slander.

[Greenhat]

[Hesiod]

[Montana]

Nice try Hesiod.
You´re comparing soldiers witnessing first-hand incidents
in Iraq, to John Kerry slandering thousands with sweeping
statements based on what other radicals in Washington DC
were saying at the time.

How many atrocities did John Kerry personally
observe in Vietnam? For the ones he (or you) can come up
with, why, as an OIC of his Swift Boat, did he not report
these atrocities, as he was required to, including the ones he admitted to himself (on Meet the Press)?

I could go on, but your analogy doesn´t wash with this veteran.
Montana

[Greenhat]

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[sparky]

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[sparky]

Hesiod, you bring up some really good points. And like atrocities committed during Vietnam, rightwingers just want a public kept ignorant.

[sparky]

The Iraq whistle-blower said the family is concerned some people will view his decision to turn in fellow soldiers as traitorous, rather than heroic, especially in Cresaptown, Md., where he lives and where the 372nd is based.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-prisoner-abuse-whistleblower,0,5304280.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines

[Greenhat]