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mike4gwb · Seaman Recruit Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 21

Below is a link to an article in the British Telegraph stating Kerry tried to defer Vietnam for 12 months in Paris. I thought he said he was RUNNING to get in Vietnam back then? This from Harvard, will the ultra-Libs tell us that Harvard is a conservative stronghold now?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/03/07/wkerr07.xml

producehawk · PO1 Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 463

If this pans out it will be sooo sweet. I don't blame a guy for trying to get a deferment. But I do hate a liar.

Polaris · Rear Admiral Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 626

Wow! Our friends from across the Pond are weighing in. This really is big news. Of course it shows just how far behind the MSM (even the UK MSM which actually does research) is since we all know about Paris a long time ago.

Of course they conflate SBVFT with the Bush campaign but for a UK publication I am inclined to forgive them. UK election law is different.
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mike4gwb · Seaman Recruit Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 21

Jacque Chirac once worked for Budweiser here in the US as a young man, so he says. He preferred work and pay in American over their socialist system. Yet as a young man, Kerry loved Paris.(still does). Seems like the guys are in the wrong places.(*WINK)

Mona · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:02 am Post subject:

It does pan out. That article is among the footnotes in Unfit for Command. O'Neill already has this one buttoned down.
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stealthy · Lieutenant Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 237

I posted this in the R&R section a little while back, This story is dated but no press on it for some reason. This story was what I remember making Brinlkeys Tour Of Duty book amatuer. How could he research for crap and miss this?
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frankenwil · Former Member Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 15

Why does it matter if Kerry wanted a deferment but couldn't get one?

Navy wife · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:20 am Post subject:

This is great! How does he explain this away? From his website tonight:

"As he was about to graduate from Yale, John Kerry volunteered to serve in Vietnam - because, as he later said, "it was the right thing to do." He believed that because he had had a lot of privileges in life - for example, attending a great university like Yale - he had a responsibility to give something back to his country. His two great heroes - his father and John F. Kennedy - had served during World War II. John Kerry wanted to follow both their example and that of some of his best friends, who also went to Vietnam."

He doesn't sound too patriotic when you read the story in the News Telegraph in the UK:

"...He wrote to his local recruitment board seeking permission to spend a further 12 months studying in Paris, after completing his degree course at Yale University in the mid-1960s.

The revelation appears to undercut Sen Kerry's carefully-cultivated image as a man who willingly served his country in a dangerous war - in supposed contrast to President Bush, who served in the Texas National Guard and thus avoided being sent to Vietnam."

When they tried to get a comment from the campaign, here's what they reported:
"Sen Kerry's campaign headquarters in Washington refused an opportunity to deny the report. Despite repeated telephone calls from The Telegraph, a spokesman refused to comment."

Don't you know they are having a fit trying to figure out damage control if this spreads? Shocked

mike4gwb · Seaman Recruit Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 21

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frankenwil · Former Member Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 15

That's a good point. If Kerry gave one motive when it was really another, then it matters. Has anyone proven that he sought a deferment to study in Paris? The other thing is, if he had really been intent on avoiding duty couldn't have simply applied to grad school in the United States? If I'm not mistaken, they were giving grad school deferments back then. [edited: Let's keep the discussion where it belongs, on John Kerry]

Billman · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:43 am Post subject:

Love that quote "This means that Kerry didn't jump into all that heroic service until he was pushed"
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J. Toy · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:06 am Post subject:

This is already out there. It just gets lost in all the other plot points of this obvious scam job.

SEND ME!!

Makes me want to hurl!

He enlisted in the reserves to try to avoid active duty because he couldn't get the deferment, and his number was coming up.

Now we are supposed to gag this whole hero story down and after 35yrs, re-live the memories of the disgusting anti-service people climate of the time beause this fraud chose to present himself as a patriot before the electorate.

How many POWs died because of this punk?

The atrocities that this man has brought on his countrymen is unmeasurable, and in my opinion, should be prosecuted.
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Robert Cooper · Lt.Jg. Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 134 Location: Tulsa, OK

Read the article - if the Democrats keep on promoting characters like John Kerry, they will appropriately become called "Mesmercrats"

The article indidates that Republican party strategists, campaign managers and adivisers are aware of this - looks liike the "avoidance" issue is going to be reduced to a "I was there, you wasn't" approach.
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DemForTruth · Seaman Recruit Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 1

I am so glad others are beginning to pick up this story. I have emailed Sean Hannity, Laura Inghram, Chris Matthews at Hardball ( although he is way too liberal to report this) amoung others. It just doesn't seem to be making the news.

And... it does matter since he is always tooting his own horn about how he is such a patriot, making a bee-line to the Navy. He actually stated in his 1996 bid for the Senate.... That unlike his oponent who chose to go to law school, he chose the war. Which is a bunch of bunk. If you send a letter asking for a deferment to study in Paris, then Vietnam and the Navy wasn't your choice it's what he did after he was told service was his only choice.

Swifties... God Bless you all. You are fighting the good fight and restoring the honor and reputation of the Vietnam Veterans.

One more thing, why isn't the Reserves or the Guard jumping up and down with all the mainstream media and the Democrats comparing joining them to the same thing as dodging the draft? My husband served in the Airforce and is now in the Air National Guard. When they do this, it is an insult to every man and woman currently serving and to all who have served in the past. The Liberals and the medial should be ashamed of theirselves for making such blatant disrespectful comparisons.