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tvaughan Seaman
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 182
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:00 am Post subject: |
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I don't mind the Edwards people harping on Dole. They're not very nice people and this doesn't surprise me, Dole was in combat. If Kerry was in combat he wouldn't have had to apply twice for his PH.
I just don't want national pundits smearing Dole.
(From my understanding, Dole's grenade was not the wound of his that did the most damage).
THE GOOD NEWS:
It looks like people, even on the Kerry site, are beginning to accept that Kerry's wound was self inflicted.
They don't see the difference yet, but if they want to go after Dole by saying its the same thing, not knowing the difference between self-inflicted during combat and those while it's just you and your buddies?
Let them.
It's an admission that it IS self-inflicted.
Too sweet. _________________ Talking point #1: Sign 180
Talking point #2: Sign 180
Talking point #3: Sign 180 |
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Chuck54 PO1
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 466
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Jungle_rat wrote: |
Just look at them writhe in agony at the truth. SBVT is performing an exorcism on the SOB's. |
Yup, and the SOB's are twisting their heads in circles and regurgitating guacomole all over the place....what a disgusting sight. _________________ "And no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often, than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry"
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tvaughan Seaman
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:03 am Post subject: |
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mtpNY wrote: | I believe the differences are:
1) Dole *admitted* the wounds were not serious (even superficial), was even embarrassed they were self-inflicted and did not embelish/lie/enhance
2) Dole was awarded the PH and did not apply/campaign/re-apply for it |
That's a really good point. There's a true difference in character for you. One is self-effacing about his self-inflicted wound while IN COMBAT, the other is demanding a purple heart and calling himself a hero for one he got with no hostiles in sight. _________________ Talking point #1: Sign 180
Talking point #2: Sign 180
Talking point #3: Sign 180 |
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Integrity Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 92 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Consider that the enabler in everything is the leftist media. If it's righteous it is stiffled. If it's harmful it is played 24/7. The hippies began protesting 3/24/65 when the SDS held a teach in at the U of Michigan. April 17 big march in DC. No fawning media, no publicity. If the long hairs were treated by the media the way conservatives are there would never have been a movement that went anywhere. If the 6 o'clock news hadn't conspired to turn America against our military, milllions would still be alive in Vietnam and Cambodia. The Senate leftists could have held their hearings in 1971 but they would not have been news without their complicit partners and they would not have turned so much of good hearted America against our brave men and women that served in Vietnam. _________________ "What our enemies have begun, we will finish,"
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Jungle_rat Lt.Jg.
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 106 Location: Geyserville, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | .what a disgusting sight |
I'd been stumped to explain what could account for the irrational, fanatical lunacy and bottomless treachery of the left. The only explanation that makes any sense is demonic possesion.
I wish I was joking.
Got any Holy water? _________________ "Medals do not make a man. Morals do."-Don Bendell |
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kmudd Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 825
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Jungle_rat wrote: | Quote: | .what a disgusting sight |
I'd been stumped to explain what could account for the irrational, fanatical lunacy and bottomless treachery of the left. The only explanation that makes any sense is demonic possesion.
I wish I was joking.
Got any Holy water? |
They hate America and all that America stands for. |
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minnie presley Commander
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 307
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:42 am Post subject: re dole |
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suggestion, lets all hit them on msnbc with phone calls and e-mails, jam there fr....... phones and e-mails, if we all do it in the next 24 hours, they will get the message |
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4moreyears Former Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:45 am Post subject: |
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I disagree...they'll call it ratings and they win.
Instead we know who the fair minded ones are...let's send them positive e-mails...and ignore the idiots. _________________
kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam. |
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Dragoro Lt.Jg.
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 122 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Seems like the whole msm is jumping on the kerry/edwards bandwagon. I dont think Ive heard one good thing about the swiftboat vets by any anchor of a msm show. |
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Chuck54 PO1
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:52 am Post subject: |
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tvaughan wrote: |
They don't see the difference yet, but if they want to go after Dole by saying its the same thing, not knowing the difference between self-inflicted during combat and those while it's just you and your buddies?
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To my knowledge, Dole's injury was not self inflicted, it was inflicted by a fellow soldier's grenade.
But the huge difference is, Kerry never spent a day in the hospital or missed a day of duty because of his little boo-boo and yet campaigned to get a PH. What hootzpah, but very Kerry. ![Rolling Eyes](images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif) _________________ "And no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often, than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry"
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FF1047 Lieutenant
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 222
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:55 am Post subject: Friendly fire ... |
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There is friendly fire in combat (Doles kind ...)
and then there is friendly fire from shooting at shadows with the wromg weapon at the wrong range (Kerry's kind ...) _________________ JJC
USNA class of 1980 |
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napnip Ensign
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 63
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Dole has demonstrated that he is a true, honorable American. He's also one helluva man with a lot of good character.
When you think about it, you don't have to necessarily agree with Dole's politics, but you do have to respect the man. _________________ "[John Galt] raised his hand and over the desolate earth he traced in space the sign of the dollar." - Atlas Shrugged |
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stealthy Lieutenant
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 237
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:26 am Post subject: |
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I see this as them admitting Kerry didn't deserve his Phs and looking for cover on the subject. This is the tinest of fig leaves. _________________ American Conservative |
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Beatrice1000 Resource Specialist
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 1179 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:52 am Post subject: |
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justamom wrote: | WHY do they not find it odd that he won't release the truth and put an end to this nonsense? It makes no sense to me. |
They don't seem to be looking in that direction because they are too busy trying to make this go away. Maybe after JK goes "poof," they fear that they will too..... |
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Polaris Rear Admiral
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 626
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:04 am Post subject: |
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The MSM (with a couple exceptions) are not pushing Kerry to sign the SF 180 because they know that the moment he does, Bush wins the election. They would rather eat their young than see that happen. _________________ -Polaris
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