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d19thdoc PO3
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 280 Location: New Jersey Shore
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:07 am Post subject: Can't Stand Kerry But Don't Want Bush? . . . |
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Well then . . .
there's an elephant in the living room we need to talk about, even if it is "the topic that dare not speak its name." It is the reason why serious people of military experience cannot imagine John Kerry in the Oval Office.
It is the threat of nuclear weapons detonated in the middle of our big cities. The threat is probably more real now than even in the 60's, because those who are trying to get the weapons, or who may already have them, will not hesitate to use them, except for reasons of strategy or opportunity. The Soviets, at least, were not insane fanatics, and they were faced with destruction themselves if they dared strike first. If we are hit now, the enemy does not have to fear equivalent retaliation, because the enemy is everywhere and nowhere, and can hide in plain sight.
This fact has been the unspoken undercurrent to everything that has happened since 9/11/2001: the war in Iraq; the hunt for Bin Laden and its related carrot and stick with his nuclear-armed patron, Pakistan; the Iranian nuke problem; the pressure on China to deal with North Korea; the extreme measures (in my book the half-measures) taken to deal with terror threats and terrorists domestically.
9/11 changed everything not because of its scale, or its surprise, but because it revealed some things to be true which we did not believe before: the intention and the capability of our enemies.
This is why I think all criticism of the Iraq war is political fakery or just plain stupidity, unless it is intentional subversive collaboration with the enemies of this country. Bush had no choice. Everyone who gets intel briefings knows that, no matter what they now say for political advantage. The idiotic rant "Bush lied" in a saner world would have been replaced with the urgent and realistic question: "Where did they send the WMD?" (The most compelling answer being >Syria>Sudan).
It is the only issue in this campaign, because if we pick a confused, people-pleasing, narcissistic, historically anti-American, appeasement-minded socialist now, we won't have to worry about social programs and economic problems. Or, rather, post-catastrophe, we'd have follow-on social and economic problems on a scale such that we might well never recover.
We'd also be stuck with a newcomer with a big learning curve in the middle of very difficult, ongoing security situations.
How any adult person can fall for the story-book fantasy that a guy who spent all of four months as the most junior of officers, boating on the Mekong, some thirty-five years ago, is qualified by that fact alone to replace the Commander-in-Chief of all the armed forces of the most powerful nation in the history of the world, who has been engaged in the most complex, multi-layered war ever, full time, for three years, is simply mind boggling. Kerry cannot imagine that the American people are that gullibly stupid. But that is what he thinks, and the Democratic National Convention proved it. The arrogance of it is stunning. Such a condescending insult to the voters should be a stand-alone disqualification for the office.
It is a good example of what those who know him well have been telling us here and elsewhere: ". . . see how little about him has changed in those thirty-five years." _________________ For The Honor of the Fifty-Eight Thousand.
"He Can Lose, But He Can Not Hide" |
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Son Of The Godfather Captain
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 540 Location: Camarillo, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Excellent post!
SOTG _________________ "Which candidate would enemies of the United States prefer to see in the White House?" |
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thegunnerswife Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 96
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:30 am Post subject: |
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This is a very good post!!!
I support Bush though and I am scared to death that Kerry will be put in office because so many people hate Bush. (not saying that you do - this was a general statement)
I feel bad things are definitely on the horizon and so many people have said that we wouldn't see it in "our" lifetime. Ummm who would have thought 9/11 would have happened?
I would give my left arm (I'm left handed so that is a major sacrafice) to keep Kerry out of office! His wife scares the living daylights out of me too. Just the thought of those two leave me numb and speechless. _________________ IYAOYAS! |
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Son Of The Godfather Captain
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 540 Location: Camarillo, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | numb and speechless |
New nicknames for the Dem candidates?
SOTG _________________ "Which candidate would enemies of the United States prefer to see in the White House?" |
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thegunnerswife Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 96
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:40 am Post subject: |
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LOL!!!!
My husband's grandfather is a WWII and Korean War Veteran. He is so proud of my husband. He has just about any awards or rights up or anything on my husband. He has a wall plastered with pictures of my husband - he is a very proud grandpa and we are VERY proud of him.
HOWEVER, he is SOOOOOOOOOOOO against President Bush that he can't see straight. He totally ignores any information I share with him about Kerry. He doesn't care. He is annoyed at me because he knows that my vote is going to cancel his vote out.
There is no getting through to grandpa. He is that set against Bush.
I finally emailed him the other day and asked him to vote for Nader. lol!
Our family is mixed with registration. (Dems or Reps) We vote for the person not the party. _________________ IYAOYAS! |
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BuffaloJack Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 1637 Location: Buffalo, New York
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Look,
Kerry is not presidential material and is certainly not fit to be CinC.
If Hanoi John and his politically correct, extreme left, pinko cronies get in, it will only be a matter of months before they dismantle the military and break down our homeland defense and let every radical fundamentalist son of allah run across our borders. I'm too old to learn to speak Arabic.
Kerry has to be stopped.
No matter how much you hate Bush, at least the man will keep our country safe. |
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Son Of The Godfather Captain
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 540 Location: Camarillo, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | LOL!!!!
My husband's grandfather is a WWII and Korean War Veteran. He is so proud of my husband. He has just about any awards or rights up or anything on my husband. He has a wall plastered with pictures of my husband - he is a very proud grandpa and we are VERY proud of him.
HOWEVER, he is SOOOOOOOOOOOO against President Bush that he can't see straight. He totally ignores any information I share with him about Kerry. He doesn't care. He is annoyed at me because he knows that my vote is going to cancel his vote out.
There is no getting through to grandpa. He is that set against Bush.
I finally emailed him the other day and asked him to vote for Nader. lol!
Our family is mixed with registration. (Dems or Reps) We vote for the person not the party. |
Yes, the ABB'ers (Anybody But Bush-ers) are quite an illogocal bunch (no disrespect to your husband's grandfather).
Very little you can do at this point to sway the hard-core hypnotized ones...
But I like the Nader ploy!
SOTG _________________ "Which candidate would enemies of the United States prefer to see in the White House?" |
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thegunnerswife Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 96
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Jack - reading your post gave me the chills. You and I definately are on the same page.
SOTG - Thanks! I'm going to do my best to continue that ploy too. LOL!!! Unfortunately he probably knows that in the State of CA it will only be a wasted vote by voting for Nader. And he is such a nice guy too. LOL!!!
_________________ IYAOYAS! |
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Son Of The Godfather Captain
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 540 Location: Camarillo, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: |
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BuffaloJack wrote: | Look,
Kerry is not presidential material and is certainly not fit to be CinC.
If Hanoi John and his politically correct, extreme left, pinko cronies get in, it will only be a matter of months before they dismantle the military and break down our homeland defense and let every radical fundamentalist son of allah run across our borders. I'm too old to learn to speak Arabic.
Kerry has to be stopped.
No matter how much you hate Bush, at least the man will keep our country safe. |
How very true. I was already voting Bush on that last reason alone, but the Swiftees exposure of Kerry left absolutely no doubt in my mind.
SOTG _________________ "Which candidate would enemies of the United States prefer to see in the White House?" |
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directorblue Lt.Jg.
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 121
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Can't Stand Kerry But Don't Want Bush? . . . |
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d19thdoc wrote: | Well then . . .
there's an elephant in the living room we need to talk about, even if it is "the topic that dare not speak its name." It is the reason why serious people of military experience cannot imagine John Kerry in the Oval Office. |
Great post. That's exactly why I created this fictional newspaper article that depicts a possible consequence of Kerry's election.
An article I never want to read. "NYC Atom Attack" - http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2004/08/whats-at-stake-2004-this-is-reprint-of.html _________________ http://directorblue.blogspot.com - click for various missives on the folly of John Kerry's candidacy. |
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Dimsdale Captain
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 527 Location: Massachusetts: the belly of the beast
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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A "President Kerry" would nuance, debate, negotiate, and appease while the enemy built up strength and power. Just like Clinton and Chamberlain.
His track record shows no "America first" thinking or legislating in nearly twenty years (charitibly including his current AWOL status from the Senate). Look at his attendance on the Senate Intelligence Committee. Short of the Oval Office, this is the single most important group of people with respect to the War on Terror and the Islamofacist threat, and he blew it off. He has even recently admitted to blowing off security briefings! In his arrogance, he thinks that he know everything! (it must be his mythical committee chairmanship, LOL!) Why does anyone think that would change if he were elected?
America cannot afford a President Kerry. You may not like Bush, but in the character race, it isn't even a decision. They aren't even in the same ballpark. I just don't trust Kerry to put us ahead of the UN. _________________ Everytime he had a choice, Kerry chose to side with communists rather than the United States. |
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thegunnerswife Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 96
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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HOLY SHIZNITS!!!! You certainly captured my thoughts to a T. This will be a dark day if we can't stop this man!!!!!! _________________ IYAOYAS! |
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producehawk PO1
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 463
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Who would you trust to nominate the next 4 supreme court justices? |
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chawkins Seaman Recruit
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 1
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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There are millions of us patriotic americans who had a similar problem with the first President Bush...we were unhappy with the way things were going, especially with federal budget deficit. We decided to make a statement and vote for Perot. Unfortunately, we did not think about all the votes we pulled from Bush, allowing Clinton to get elected...what a mistake! Lets not do that again. I appreciate what the swiftvets have brought to our attention. As an Air Force Officer from 1967 -1975, I am appalled at what Kerry did....and I tend to believe what I have read on this site. I don't want a commander in chief that will run from the next fire fight. |
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Theresa Alwood Rear Admiral
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 631 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Well I made that same mistake and voted for Perot...it taught me a valuable lesson...always vote for the better candidiate and if you feel that neither one is "better" than vote for who is not the "worst". If John Kerry is elected I will be scared as to what kind of attacks the terrorist will throw at us and what his reaction will be. I agree with taking pre-emptive strikes. We did nothing for over 20 years after attack, after attack, after attack...and then 09-11 happened. I THANKED GOD that President Bush was in office and not Gore. _________________ Born to raise a little hell! |
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