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fortdixlover

Swifties,

All of a sudden a bazillion stories are appearing in the Fogosphere (MSM) about Abu Ghraib.

The MSM will likely use this as a smokeshield against SwiftVets in the coming days.

I don't use the term "Fogosphere" for nothing.

Be aware.

FDL

integritycounts · Rear Admiral Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 667

The Stanford Prision Experiment of the 1970's fully explains how Abu Ghraib could happen....its why Prisons need to be a professional job...lots of training is needed. That group of Guards was tossed into that specific Duty without significant training.

Integrity · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:15 am Post subject:

Fine. Let them run more about it. Polls already showed the public was sick of it. Meanwhile the new ad premiers and will suck the rest of the oxygen from the lame stream media. Ultimately the LSM will not be able to not cover the ad and then the GOP convention.
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the0point · Lt.Jg. Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 140

Actually, the two planes down in Russia is what will probably dominate the news for days. I was watching FNC and it's looking more and more suspicious, probably intentional. I'm rather alarmed actually.

NashvilleGuy · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:25 am Post subject:

For me, the issue here is that this is yet another flip-flop on Kerry's part. You just have to reach back for the perspective.

After his testimony before the senate on the "supposed" rampance of criminal acts in the military at a time when military popularity was low in this country, Kerry found it expedient to blame his fellow soldiers.

Does he continue on this theme today?

Of course not. Now, Kerry finds it more expedient to blame civilian authority (i.e., Rumsfeld) since the public is behind the troops. His fellow civil servants now take the blame.

The only consistency is that the finger never points at him.
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fortdixlover · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:40 am Post subject:

NashvilleGuy · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:18 am Post subject:

True, and I was aware of this. I guess I spouted off a little quick without fully making my point.

What I am getting at is that he isn't laying the same charges on our military today with the publics support behind our troops. Abu Ghraib back in the day would have been a slam dunk in his Senate testimony, but today he knows the political climate is different. The parallels are there, but he passed on laying the blame on the soldiers this time. Now, he narrows in on Rumsfeld and the Bush administration.

He is an opportunist. If you seem to be standing in his way, whether as a fellow vet or a political foe, you are liable to get two barrels full of crap blown into your face. The facts are a matter for a later date. In the 70's, his path was up the backs of fellow vets to office. Today, it is up the backs of fellow politicians to higher office. My point is, it won't stop. At some level, I am sure he blames God for the fact that he isn't an emperor.

My stance here is that he simply uses whomever is expedient to his advancement at the time. With no thought of the consequences to those he trashes.

He may not know much, but he knows which way the wind blows.
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producehawk · PO1 Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 463

Kerry will turn on today's vets just as soon as it becomes politicaly advantagous to do so.