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Frogg Ensign
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 64
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: One of Kerry's band of brothers - Joe Bangert |
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One Of Kerry’s Band Of Brothers – Joe Bangert
August 25th, 2004
When John Kerry gave his victory speech the night of the New Hampshire primary, he said he was indebted to a specific group around him on stage.
"In the hardest moments of the past month, I depended on the same band of brothers I depended on more than 30 years ago," said Kerry, with his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, beside him. "We're a little older now, a little grayer, but we still know how to fight for our country.
"And if I am president, I pledge that those who wore the uniform of the United States of America will have a voice and a champion in the Oval Office."
A few feet away, wearing the Marine Corps cap he has owned since serving in Vietnam, stood Brewster resident Joseph Bangert - one of the proverbial boys in the band.
Kerry and Joe Bangert embraced. Then Bangert stood between Teresa Heinz Kerry and her victorious husband basking in the victory. A victory his work as a Kerry veterans organizer had helped to achieve.
Bangert and Kerry had first met thirty four years before in 1970, in Detroit, during the Vietnam Veterans Against The War’s “Winter Soldier Investigation,” a project funded by Jane Fonda and the conspiracy theorist Mark Lane.
Inspired by the then recent news reports of the My Lai massacre, the WSI’s organizers sought to prove that such war crimes were committed by US troops on an almost daily basis.
However, many of the participants were subsequently revealed to have been frauds. Many had not ever seen combat. Many had not ever been to Vietnam. Some had not even served in the military.
Joe Bangert was one of the WSI’s star participants. His testimony along with many of the others at the event, was entered into the Congressional Record on April 6, 1971.
Rest of article can be read at:
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=3782 |
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hanna Rear Admiral
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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That is the most disgusting thin I have ever read! |
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rb325th Admiral
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 1334
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the Story! Shows a little more of Kerrys Credibility! Guess he kind of sort of regrets having said what he did, even though he stands behind his words despite the fact they were not his own words, or were they
Kerry takes the cake for his ability to totaly cloud where he truely stands! _________________ U.S. Army 1983-1995, 11C1P/11H2P NBTDT |
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baldeagl PO3
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 260 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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My first thought is, did this guy actually serve in Vietnam? So many of the VVAW did not, that I wouldn't believe a word he said until he produced the documents to prove he served in the Marines and he was stationed in Nam at the time he said he was, doing the things he says he was doing.
I guess I'm going to have to buy Stolen Valor as well. _________________ antimedia
USN OST-6 68-74
http://antimedia.blogspot.com/ |
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ASPB Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 1680
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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You can believe he was on stage hugging Kerry, though. This is a very old story in the veterans community. So far we've been unable to get traction with the press on it. You might want to take a run at it in your blog. _________________ On Sale! Order in lots of 100 now at velero@rcn.com Free for the cost of shipping All profits (if any, especially now) go to Swiftvets. The author of "Sink Kerry Swiftly" ---ASPB |
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Jette Lt.Jg.
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 118
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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John Kerry maintains close ties with his V V A W Komrades - David Thorne, former brother-in-law and Editor of "The New Soldier" is Kerry's campaign Adviser. John Hurley, whose fabricated stories of atrocities, documented in "Unfit for Command" (pp.178-180) heads up Veterans for Kerry.
Don't think for a minute that Kerry has abandoned his anti-war mentality or his anti-war Komrades. |
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baldeagl PO3
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 260 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Here's some info on Mr. Bangert from the Winter Soldier investigation Quote: | Joe Bangert enlists in 1968, and serves in VMO-6, an aviation unit that flies very small observation planes. Banger does not state his MOS (Military Occupational Specialty), but almost all the enlisted men in these units were maintenance types - fix airplanes, attach bombs, fix radios, etc. They usually did not fly, and they saw very little combat.
Bangert says he sees a truck load of Marines murder a bunch of children on his first day with two officers present. Then he sees bodies "crucified" on perimeter wire, apparently cut up with knives and hung on the wire. Then he has a friend who is CIA who takes him somewhere, murders a woman with twenty shots, then cuts open her ******, takes out her organs and skins her. The perpetrator was a former military officer, and two other field grade officers knew about it.
Then Bangert works with the pacification program in Vietnam, and travels extensively through Quang Tri Province. He sees approximately twenty deformed infants under the age of one.
Bangert sees journalists, specifically women journalists who were readily welcomed into the unit. There was always this whitewashing thing. Well, sometimes these people would go right past the bodies and come into our base to get a story. They were kept away from the enlisted men, away from the people who were involved. The typical thing was to take them down to the Officers Club, get them soused.
Elsewhere in his testimony, Bangert claims to be a door gunner with two helo units.
Anybody who believes these tall tales is awfully gullible. Bangert worked for a light observation squadron - very little combat. The men worked like coolies, often 16 hours a day 7 days a week, servicing planes, refueling, rearming, preparing, cleaning, maintaining. Usually they did not fly. They did not get to wander off on secret CIA missions. They did not participate in the CAP program - these were separate small units who lived permanently in villages, protecting the villages from the VC. They did not get to wander around Quang Tri looking at deformed kids. He states on his first day he sees a bunch of kids murdered on Route 1 -- this the main thoroughfare through the area, not some remote area. Can you imagine the press coverage? He says the press saw the crucified bodies, but were wooed with booze and did not report on this. Come on, get real.
So how much is the rest fabricated? Some no doubt is true. When a story is limited, it is more credible. But a lot of it is people telling tales, pathological liars and just plain liars. Bangert leads a rich fantasy life suitable for Stephen King. |
Just another Kerry poseur who never actually saw combat. A liar like Kerry. _________________ antimedia
USN OST-6 68-74
http://antimedia.blogspot.com/ |
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kman Lt.Jg.
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 132 Location: Diamond Bar, Ca.
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:47 pm Post subject: Communist Kumbyah |
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Just sickening.
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...and ended that portion of the show with the Ballad of Uncle Ho. It was a show stopper to say these least.
Here are a few lyrics from The Ballad Of Ho Chin Minh:
Now Ho Chi Minh went to the mountains
And he trained a determined band
Heroes all, sworn to liberate the Indo-Chinese people
Drive invaders from the land.
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Do you suppose The Poodle sang along? With this Bangert guy currently being on staff, what does that say for the appointments of a Kerry Administration? It's chilling.
Kurt |
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stealthy Lieutenant
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 237
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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This is big and deserves legs of it's own. Everyone should know about this guy. _________________ American Conservative |
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