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rb325th · Admiral Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 1334

Kerry is grasping at straws trying to stay "afloat", the FEC has already determined that the SBVFT have every right to air any Ads they want, the allegations of a connection between SBVFT and Bush/Cheney are non exsistent and the appearence of one man in an Ad who was a VOLUNTEER worker was nothing, the Attorney is a nothing connection and pales in comparrison to the Kerry Campaigns connections with 527 Organisations.
Kerry himself has already violated the McCain/Feingold Act by contacting a member of the SBVFT and after being told that he continued the conversation in an attempt to stop the Ads!!
The demands that Bush interfere with the SBVFT and demand they halt the Ads would be a violation of the Law as well, and you better believe that Kerry knows this to be true!!
It is all Political Grandstanding in an effort to divert attention from the real issue!! Kerry knows what he is doing here with all this and fortunately we are not all as ignorant as he thinks we are!!
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cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

Well, now. If the AG opens an independent investigation of allegations of collusion, it seems that there might be a little discovery in order. Say, Kerry's unexpurgated military records, to start with?

I suppose Kerry could take the 5th on signing the SF 180. Wouldn't that be a hoot?
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jack white · Seaman Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 179

Let's see: attempts to ban books, intimidation of broadcasters, media propaganda, and now the suggested arrest of political opponents.

Maybe Kerry's side won the Cold War after all!!

notjfk · Seaman Recruit Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 37

I agree Kerry is grasping after straws... Hes doing anything he can. Look at today, calling for Rumsfeld to resign? Seems like awkward timing. Its like his political coaches told him to do this.
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Steve Z · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:15 am Post subject: Ashcroft investigation

Fat chance that John Ashcroft will investigate "links" between the Swift Boat Veterans and the Bush campaign, in order to help John Kerry.

I'm sure that John Ashcroft vividly remembers Kerry and his fellow Democrats grilling Ashcroft during his confirmation hearings, basing Ashcroft's qualification for the job on whether he would enforce laws against abortion protestors. Somehow, I don't believe Ashcroft will do Kerry any favors right now--Ashcroft is a man of INTEGRITY!!!

Besides, Ashcroft can always say that he has more important things to do right now, such as investigate terrorists...Kerry's case can always wait until December!
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Polaris · Rear Admiral Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 626

Everyone,

Actually I can see Ashecroft's response:

I am sorry that you think that a small group of Vietnam Veterans might be breaking campaign finance laws. However, such matters are best left to the capable hands of the Federal Election Commission. ....and so on....

In short, he calls them an idiots (politely of course) for wasting his time.
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rbshirley · Founder Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 394

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Scrooge · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:28 am Post subject:

It's becoming clear that the "Bring it on" statement is being implemented by stunts to keep grabbing headlines, trying to throw SBVFT off message with legal threats, innuendo and deceptions. I suspect we will see approximately one a day until they either give up or prevail. They think this will make them look tough and will provide enough smoke to envelop the real issues. A possible secondary effect will be to atr Bush with "dirty politics" labels.

If SBVFT does nothing to counter these efforts, the kerry folks may, in fact, be right. I'm no expert at this, but something like a lawsuit against kerry personally to get him to sign a 180 would seem like it would serve two purposes: put him again on the defensive and (more importantly) focus the issue on getting the records released. The MSM and unfortunately many voters are starting to see this as a he said, he said. Further, the recent kerry counter-attacks are over-shadowing the VVAW issues and his clear acts of treason.

Scrooge

Truegrit · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:40 am Post subject:

Kerry can't take the heat. His campaign attorneys are also working for anti-Bush 527's. Call CNN to protest their one-sided coverage of this issue, Blitzer and Dobbs.

CNN Atlanta phone number: 404-827-1500

And write Blitzer at wolf@cnn.com
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dallasbob · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:48 am Post subject: Whiners!

The hallmark characteristic of liberals from the workplace to Washington is that they're a bunch of whiners!

integritycounts · Rear Admiral Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 667

This is a political stunt....which gets Ashcrofts name in the picture....its designed to invigorate the Democratic faithful....because Ashcroft will do nothing with this.

Why?

Because its an End run around the Federal Election Commission....which needs to do its work first.

This is just a stunt....2nd day....2nd Stunt. If you react to it...they win....this means nothing...and frankly its just silly

BenJaxBchFL · Seaman Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 198

Again, remember that the Kerry camp has enlisted the Clinton hired guns. They are very good.

Yesterday it was fire Rumsfeld. Today it's get Ashcroft to investigate.

Shift from being on the defensive and having to answer questions to going on the offense and put the opposition on the defense.
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scs · Seaman Recruit Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 12

One of the saddest things about Kerry's attack against the Swift Vets is that he's putting more effort into fighting them than he has put into fighting the war on terrorism.

If Kerry's side is correct, then he should stop changing his story and sue the Swift Vets for slander (or is it libel?) I'd love to see the outcome of that! A lawsuit for that reason is the only valid reason he has for using the power of the government to silence the group. All those other things that he's doing is nothing more than pure unconstitutional government-imposed censorship. (Where's Tim Robbins and his "chill wind" speech when it's approperate?)

Seriously, take a look at this crybaby behavior of his, does it really seem implausable that he could have used that same behavior to get Purple Hearts he didn't deserve? Look at how crazy this issue has made him, a President needs to be able to take punches like these! If he can't tolerate a little criticism, how's he going to handle a serious national disaster issue while in office?

Dimsdale · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:13 pm Post subject:

This could turn into a Kerry "be careful what you wish for, you might get it" moment.

If Ashcroft goes after 527s, 9/10ths of them are Democrat backers, so Kerry will lose big, because Ashcroft, should he do this, isn't going to discriminate, although he may go after the biggest and oldest, i.e. Moveon.org, to make an example of them.

Might be fun to watch.
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