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Kerry, in 1971, Admitted Writing Combat Reports (article)

 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:35 pm    Post subject: Kerry, in 1971, Admitted Writing Combat Reports (article) Reply with quote

Kerry, in 1971, Admitted Writing Combat Reports
http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200408\NAT20040826a.html
By Marc Morano
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
August 26, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry's 1971 testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee reveals that the then anti-war activist admitted to writing many of the battle reports during his four months of combat in Vietnam.

Kerry told the committee on April 22, 1971, "...I can recall often sending in the spot reports which we made after each mission..."

Kerry also said that many in the military had "a tendency to report what they want to report and see what they want to see."

Kerry's comments about the battle reports came in response to a question from then Senator Stuart Symington (D- Mo.), who wondered about the accuracy of information from military sources.

According to the testimony , which is available in the Congressional Record, Sen. Symington asked Kerry, "Mr. Kerry, from your experience in Vietnam do you think it is possible for the President or Congress to get accurate and undistorted information through official military channels.[?]"

Kerry responded, "I had direct experience with that. Senator, I had direct experience with that and I can recall often sending in the spot reports which we made after each mission; and including the GDA, gunfire damage assessments, in which we would say, maybe 15 sampans sunk or whatever it was. And I often read about my own missions in the Stars and Stripes and the very mission we had been on had been doubled in figures and tripled in figures.

Kerry later added, "I also think men in the military, sir, as do men in many other things, have a tendency to report what they want to report and see what they want to see."


The 34-year-old testimony could shed light on the present debate over who wrote key battlefield reports that critics of Kerry say allowed him to win awards.

B. G. Burkett, author of the book Stolen Valor and a military researcher, calls the 1971 testimony "significant."

"What is significant about this is [Kerry] is readily admitting that he often submitted reports and he is implying that he himself exaggerated in those reports," Burkett told CNSNews.com.

"We have no way of knowing specifically which documents Kerry composed; and of the the ones he did compose -- did he in fact exaggerate or outright lie in those reports? That is the issue here," Burkett said.

The controversy about who authored the now controversial after-action reports arose earlier this week, when the Washington Post obtained the military records of Larry Thurlow, one of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Thurlow's military records indicated that enemy fire erupted after Kerry's boat was hit by a mine explosion on March 13, 1969.

Thurlow now insists there was no enemy fire that day. The best selling new book by John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi, Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry, details the groups' critique of Kerry. Kerry has denounced the book and the Swift Boat vets and accused them of being an affiliate of President Bush's re-election campaign.

Thurlow and Kerry were each awarded a Bronze Star for heroism on that 13th day of March. Kerry also received his third Purple Heart as a result of the events of that day.

At the center of the controversy is whether or not there was enemy fire during Kerry's rescue of James Rassmann from the Bay Hap River. Kerry and Rassmann and others say there was enemy fire, while Thurlow and other swift boat veterans insist there was not.

Thurlow's own Bronze Star citation states that there was "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" directed at "all units." But Thurlow believes his citation was based on Kerry's own account of the day.

"I am convinced that the language used in my citation ... was language taken directly from John Kerry's report," Thurlow said earlier this week. "John Kerry was the only officer who filed a report describing his version of the incident," Thurlow added.

The Washington Post summed up the controversy this way: "Much of the debate over who is telling the truth boils down to whether the two-page after-action report and other Navy records are accurate or whether they have been embellished by Kerry or someone else."

Burkett believes that Kerry stated the controversy surrounding his war record.

"Kerry thought that he could make a grand presentation of his combat record, and there would be no response, obviously, from the Republicans, considering the lack of military experience on that side of the aisle," Burkett said.

"I think [Kerry] completely misjudged the anger of Vietnam Veterans collectively and their ability to organize and have an answer to John Kerry," he added.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woops... I didn't see this one... thanks NNN for locking my duplicate... Smile

Ok, can someone clue us clueless in, as to who is actually responsible for writing the combat reports?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

>>"Kerry thought that he could make a grand presentation of his combat record, and there would be no response, obviously, from the Republicans, considering the lack of military experience on that side of the aisle," Burkett said.<<

I sure respect Mr. Burkett for his research, books, and articles, but he doesn't need to repeat a false talking point about lack of military experience by Republicans. Give both parties their due for having members who served in the military.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Kerry 1971 Testimony - "And I often read about my own missions in the Stars and Stripes and the very mission we had been on had been doubled in figures and tripled in figures"


IMHO, if someone has the resources and ability to cross check any of this, it would be a good indication he was in fact the one that did the "inflating".
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Several articals on that today, one reporter actually sources wintersoldier.com
Everyone is familiar with the atrocities part of the testimony; but there is more to the testimony. Great catch by the reporter. That site has a lot of background on Kerry, on his after war activites, that could answer a lot of questions posed by posters here.
Good reminder to visit that site, and plan to stay a while….and read.

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040301211216494
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ACCURACY OF INFORMATION THROUGH OFFICIAL MILITARY CHANNELS
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump this back to the top because C-Span decided not to show this part.
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