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Frogg · Ensign Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 64

I don't think this is as effective an ad as the other two either.
However, if they are using it as a stepping stone (or building block) to build up a stronger case.....then it will be effective in the long run.

The one way it is effective is that although Kerry has backed off of the "Christmas in Cambodia" story.....he has changed positions several times......the latest being that he was in Cambodia (probably in January) on a secret, secret mission (like anyone believes that anyway).

What the ad does.....is challenge the latest storyline Kerry is standing by.
The discussion of that story will continue.... more doubts established, etc.

And, as the previous poster mentioned......it puts Gardner back in the light as "being on Kerry's boat"

I have a feeling these Swiftees have a "master plan" and that it is unfolding brilliantly as planned.....setting the stage for the next piece of truth!

Also, how can Kerry run an ad to debunk this? If he does, he will have to establish documents to show he was in Cambodia....and, he can't do that unless he actually was in Cambodia.

forgivenjojo · Former Member Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 159

in case you arent paying attention:

I would like the links to the other two ads.

Can somebody help me here?

BrianC · PO2 Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 364

WebTalk · Lt.Jg. Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 147

Great ad again.

I kind of agree that if it started with the Kerry testimony about being "seared...seared"...before Gardner spoke it might tie it together better for those not paying enough attention, then again those people are probably still not paying attention enough yet.

So it's going to be like Christmas in October, huh?
I can't wait!
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bach04 · Lieutenant Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 212

video # 2
http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_video2.html

mj_brutus · Seaman Recruit Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 32

Won't MSM spin O'Neil's taped remarks to Nixon to try to defuse this ad? I mean, it seems to me that many folks will be oinking with delite at CNN over O'Neil's "confession" that he was in Cambodia. After (bogusly) concluding that such wast he case, then they'll attack this ad.

jfnk · Ensign Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 54

This ad had to be made. The public is confused by all the medals stories, and the media will always spin in the Dems favor. This ad can not be refuted. I think Kerry is hiding from the media because his camp has been able to come up with a good story about Cambodia.

Next ad should hit Kerry on the 180. Another 30 sec simple ad.

And the Republicans need to stand up to Max Cleland! Lying POS.

bach04 · Lieutenant Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 212

forgivenjojo:

video # 1:
http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_video_wmv.html

DaveL · Commander Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 300

jstoc · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:01 pm Post subject: AD ARE ON SWIFBOAT VETS MAIN PAGE

In case you aren't paying attention, the videos for the first two ads are on the SwiftBoat Vets Main Web Site, accesses through the menu at the left of the page.
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JROTC · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:05 pm Post subject:

Concur with others stating that it is simple and to the point. I am especially glad to see it placed before this Sunday's morning shows. There should be a good amount of comments - good and bad - tomorrow that will provide more ammo for Sunday. This is going to get even better!
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soccer4ever · Lieutenant Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 214 Location: USA

Good ad. Simple, sweet, and from the looks of it, unrefutable.

It makes Kerry eat the Cambodia lie. Want some ketchup with that, Senator?
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soccer4ever · Lieutenant Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 214 Location: USA

TRANSCRIPT:
Steve Gardner, Foregunner, PCF44:

"I spent more time on John Kerry's boat than any other crewmember. John Kerry hasn't been honest - he has been deceitful. John Kerry claims that he spent Christmas, in 1968, in Cambodia. And that is catagorically a lie. Not in December. Not in January. We were never in Cambodia on a secret mission. Ever."
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Jeff Carrington · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:55 pm Post subject:

The truth is always the strongest argument.--Sophocles
Truth is truth To the end of reckoning.--Shakespeare
Truth is generally the best vindication against slander--Lincoln

The ad is great. Perfect tempo and messsage in the sequence. Swiftvets you are the beacon. Keep on keepin' on. Hats off to you.

jwbarden

As a junior officer, Kerry broke it off in a GMG2 he thought would never be able to get even with an elite Yalie Bonesman. Now he knows better. QED.