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openfish24 · Lt.Jg. Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 140

is gone

A former marine - wow - how shameful

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Misty · Lieutenant Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 223

Ditto

tikoys · Seaman Recruit Joined: 11 Jul 2004 Posts: 13

I lost respect for Glen when he defended Clinton during the impeachment haerings.

Ogre · Lt.Jg. Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 120

Just another partisan hack lamenting that Vietnam is being focused on while totally ignoring that Kerry made it the focus for months, until it bit him in the ass.
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ord33 · Rear Admiral Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 670 Location: Ohio

It would be nice if he paid off debts owed from a failed Pres. bid too (what about $3-4 Million?)

Hans Burkhardt · Ensign Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 53 Location: USA

Notice the big (D) behind his name on screen. Another party mouthpiece. Not impressive.

cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

He's a retired Marine. And he'll always have my respect.

However, he's ALWAYS been a liberal democrat. He's NEVER claimed to be anything different. He's always maintained his integrity and honor. His valor and bravery are indisputable.

He's just wrong on this one. Every Marine make mistakes. I'm not about to disown one of my own for his consistent conviction and his loyality to his party because he's gotten bad intelligence. Or that he has a belief he is having a hard time letting go of. He's my brother and always will be.

Even if he is wrong.
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Nomorelies · Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:35 am Post subject:

Glen should take his medals and quietly fade into the background. His comments were so very partisan and in my opinion do not reflect the sentiments of the vast majority of veterans.
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openfish24 · Lt.Jg. Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 140

Once a Marine always a Marine

Straighten up and fly right John

Pete Bartow

rparrott21 · Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:36 am Post subject:

This is exposing Kerry for being a traitor and prolonging the war, resulting in more American deaths...long overdue....

roughfun · Lt.Jg. Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 105 Location: California

John F.....ing Glen. Just another party hack. Who would have thought he would so willingly twist the knife on his fellow Vets. Sold his his soul to a treasonous liar. Lie down with dogs you get fleas John Glenn. Never forgive or forget. Semper Fi.

GenrXr · Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:45 am Post subject:

In the great movie 'The Right Stuff' isn't he the don't mess around on your wives keep up appearances for the good of the country. And here he is being blatantly partisan to a fault. Sad

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Chuck54 · PO1 Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 466

I respect his status as a former marine, same for carville.

But I think they have spent too much time in the sun without a cap.
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The Balloon Artist · PO3 Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 262 Location: Texas

John Glen was a childhood Hero.

That was diminshed in the Savings and Loan Castle Grande et al scandal of the late 80s. And BTW Hillary and Bills finger prints were on Castle Grande as well.

It vanished when he defended Bill for another trip in space.

I don't care what he does now.
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hopeful · Seaman Recruit Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 38

I just got home and must have missed something. Why is this dialogue going on about John Glenn? While he has had the "right stuff", don't forget that he has been a Democratic politician for a lot of years. He is a Democrat and he is over 80.

He is a former Marine but as a politician he owes a lot of favors to people who have never been Marines and don't care about Marines. Don't forget that John K. was a naval officer when he betrayed his brothers.

Why does everybody believe that the guy in the trenches has to be the same guy you know today? I understand that you want to continue to believe in the guy in whose hands you placed your life. But, people grow in different directions.

That's life.

You may admire who he was but it doesn't mean that you have to agree with him toady. Nor should you equate the kid with the man. John Glenn was an American hero but so was Jefferson Davis until his politics led him to rebellion.

I admire John Glenn, George McGovern, Bob Kerrey and so many others for their service. George McGovern was a B 17 pilot during WWII and quite heroic. He is a very courageous man!! But the fact of the matter is I did not and do not agree with his politics or his vision for my country. I am an American citizen and I have the right to know where my next president is going to lead this country. If John K. is a lying glory hound who deserted his men I have a right to know!

One of the major problems we have right now is that most of the MSM evaded service and are loathe to question those that have served.

I took the oath of office for the USMC PLC program on 14 April 1970 as a freshman in college (that parchment is one of my most treasured pocessions). I took that oath weeks before the incidents at Kent State and Jackson University.

It was a bad time and I could have been the last man that Kerry talked about. I was released because of a medical condition. Did I serve? No! But does that invalidate my opinion as an American citizen on a candidate for the next CIC?
No, Damn It!!

We have to get over who they were and question who they are today.

The veterans have a bone to pick with J. Kerry. We as the supporters of the veterans owe them the right to speak. And as American citizens we have the responsibility to decide who is telling the truth.

My money is on the Swift Boat Vets. They have nothing to gain and everythin to lose. Look at the news from Oregon today!!

Please don't denigrate John Glenn's heroic services to this country (WWII, Korea, Space) because you are politically opposed to his politics today.

Oppose his politics don't denegrate the hero! That is our way of doing things.

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