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fortdixlover
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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 Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:46 am Post subject: Dossier Day plus ten!! |
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Reminder:
It's "Dossier Day + Ten". Do you know where your Brown Book Dossier is?
If "Dossiers" are released, we should do some artwork depicting Vietnamese Communist Leaders distributing Brown Books.
Because doing so by the Kerry Campaign would be exactly the same - anti-American, pro-Communist forces resorting to Stalinist totalitarian tactics.
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Dear SwiftVets,
It's Monday.
HAPPY DOSSIER DAY 
-- FDL
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SwiftVets and friends:
John Kerry has recruited private investigators to dig up dirt on the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth in a last ditch bid to discredit the group that has been so successful in damaging his image as a Vietnam War hero. The Kerry investigators are "compiling incriminating Dossiers on the members of the veteran group," reports the New York Daily News.
The Kerry campaign threatens to release these "Dossiers" on Monday, August 30.
The soldiers of this country sacrificed friends, life and limb for our freedoms. If our Government officials - if Senator Kerry - start to compile and release secret “Dossiers” on private citizens who critique them, releasing the Dossiers to destroy these citizens' lives, then our freedoms as we know them will cease. We can kiss the Constitution and Bill of Rights goodbye. Your sacrifices will have been in vain.
It would be an attack on the freedoms of Americans comparable to the attack on our security of 9/11/2001.
No, it would be worse than 9/11. It would be an annihilation of our freedoms. We can rebuild the Twin Towers, but not our freedoms.
The civil penalties for such actions would be monetary, easily affordable by those of the Heinz fortune. But the enormity of such a crime and the damage it would cause, the precedent it would set, would be immense.
Where has the ACLU been on this? Why have we not heard mass outcries from civil rights organizations on this threatened attack on our fundamental freedoms, freedom of Americans to speak out against government officials without fear of retribution?
Write the ACLU for legal assistance about this outrageous violation of our rights.
Write your state ACLU affiliate at http://www.aclu.org/Affiliates/subsitesmain.cfm .
Carbon copy the newsmedia. Carbon your elected representatives!
Do not let 8/30/04 become the day remembered as the 9/11/01 of American freedom!
-- FDL
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Scott
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IMHO,
The ACLU doesn't actually give a rat's a$$ about any amendment to the Constitution. They will have nothing to do with SBVT, unless they can sue them.
The SBVT don't fit the ACLU's agenda.
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Slednfool
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| Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not sure the ACLU is the place to go for this. Unless you want to rape kids, burn the flag, or remove God from the public, they are probably not interested. |
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fortdixlover
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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| Slednfool wrote: | | I'm not sure the ACLU is the place to go for this. Unless you want to rape kids, burn the flag, or remove God from the public, they are probably not interested. |
Then let's do it to expose the ACLU for what it is as well.
Write the ACLU! Cc: your letters to the WSJ, opinionjournal@wsj.com , rush@eibnet.com , Drudge, Hannity, to the partisans at the NY Times, etc. etc. etc.
-- FDL
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Chuck54
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I would hate it if the ACLU took the case and won for the swifvets.
It would be like having your life saved by Michael Moore. Yuck city 
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fortdixlover
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| Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| Chuck54 wrote: | I would hate it if the ACLU took the case and won for the swifvets.
It would be like having your life saved by Michael Moore. Yuck city |
There are still people at the ACLU who think somewhat lucidly.
They will think, in their paranoia:
First they come for the SwiftVets;
then they will come for us!
-- FDL |
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shadowy
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We need to write letters this weekend to the editors of all the lefty papers and to the networks warning them that if they start sliming the SwiftVets, we're all going to turn into a frenzied mob of howling victims. That's the only language they understand. We point out in sappy liberal terms that whatever personal difficulties the vets may have had readjusting to society were no doubt the result of John Kerry turning the country they fought to defend against them. No doubt they would have been welcomed home with open arms, and would have had high self-esteem and quickly become well integrated mentally and spiritually after their honorable service--if not for Kerry.
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fortdixlover
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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| shadowy wrote: | | We need to write letters this weekend to the editors of all the lefty papers and to the networks warning them that if they start sliming the SwiftVets, we're all going to turn into a frenzied mob of howling victims. That's the only language they understand. We point out in sappy liberal terms that whatever personal difficulties the vets may have had readjusting to society were no doubt the result of John Kerry turning the country they fought to defend against them. No doubt they would have been welcomed home with open arms, and would have had high self-esteem and quickly become well integrated mentally and spiritually after their honorable service--if not for Kerry. |
I agree. But in addition: the ACLU is the bastion of the Left. Either exposing them as Leftist shills, or forcing them to take action against their ideological accomplices, would be most excellent.
-- FDL |
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Scott
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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| Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| fortdixlover wrote: | They will think, in their paranoia:
First they come for the SwiftVets;
then they will come for us!
-- FDL |
With all due respect FDL, "they" to the SwiftVets are the moonbats et al.; "they" to the ACLU is "Fox News".
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fortdixlover
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| Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| Scott wrote: | | fortdixlover wrote: | They will think, in their paranoia:
First they come for the SwiftVets;
then they will come for us!
-- FDL |
With all due respect FDL, "they" to the SwiftVets are the moonbats et al.; "they" to the ACLU is "Fox News". |
I know. And, in thinking about that further, that would be great.
-- FDL |
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fortdixlover
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No takers?
-- FDL |
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nickb
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| Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | the ACLU is the bastion of the Left. Either exposing them as Leftist shills, or forcing them to take action against their ideological accomplices, would be most excellent.
-- FDL |
yeah, link to these and see what lefties they are. They'd never help someone from the right....
Seizure of Medical Records Violates Florida's Constitutional Right of Privacy, ACLU Tells Court
http://www.aclu.org/Privacy/Privacy.cfm?ID=14994&c=27
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108140,00.html |
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rua
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| Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't the ACLU defend Rush Limbaugh when his medical records were going to be made public knowledge? |
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fortdixlover
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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| Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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SwiftVets and readers,
I truly do believe this "Dossier" cloak-and-dagger skullduggery promulgated by the Kerry folks is both outrageous and a dangerous precedent to liberty. He is a high government official. Even suggesting "Dossiers" are going to be compiled on private citizens critiquing the government is a cardinal affront to this republic in my view. It's beyond even what the left used to call "McCarthyism."
However, some feel the ACLU is too leftist and not worth involving, despite the fact that they were dragged - kicking and screaming, no doubt - into siding with Limbaugh's privacy. Of course, the HIPAA act might have had something to do with that. HIPAA spells out severe penalties including high monetary forfeitures and jail for disclosures of confidential medical info. I look at the ACLU's taking Limbaugh's side as the ACLU protecting their Leftist pals from their own recklessness and stupidity. See below.
However:
In this situation, it's a no-lose for us to petition the ACLU for intervention.
If they intervene -- even reluctantly -- AS THEIR MISSION STATEMENT AND FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY would compel them to (in an honorable world), that's a win.
If they refuse to intervene or ignore the pleas, then the SwiftVets and you - as writers to the ACLU - add another prize to the SwiftVet Portfolio of Leftist fool, buffoon and fraud exposure.
-- FDL
The Penalties for Violating HIPAA Privacy Standards
42 USC 1320d-6 (HIPAA Sec. 1177) contains the criminal penalties for violating the HIPAA privacy standards. It states:
"a. Offense.—
A person who knowingly and in violation of this part—
uses or causes to be used a unique health identifier;
obtains individually identifiable health information relating to an individual; or
discloses individually identifiable health information to another person,
shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).
b. Penalties.—
A person described in subsection (a) shall—
be fined not more than $50,000, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both;
if the offense is committed under false pretenses, be fined not more than $100,000, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both; and
if the offense is committed with intent to sell, transfer, or use individually identifiable health information for commercial advantage, personal gain, or malicious harm, be fined not more than $250,000, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both." |
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fortdixlover
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Reminder!
Monday is Dossier Day!
-- FDL |
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