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integritycounts · Rear Admiral Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 667

Notice the discussion? Notice how its moving? Its moving away from Kerry and over to "How did we cover the story" This is how the media ends stories....they do this by saying they covered it a lot, but in actuality they are just covering themselves and not the story.

The media has not demanded that Kerry or his campaign answer the questions....in fact the Media has not got a question into Kerry for over a Month. No interviews, not nothing. (Yes I do not consider Jon Stewart as an interview at all, it was a "go ahead and talk" session)

The issues are the focus, or should be the focus. Don't obsess on the media....the media loves to obsess on itself, but that is not the point.

The point are the facts, and the points is getting the facts out, and making Kerry release the facts to the American people before the election.

The media is trying to wind down the Swift Vets without finishing the investigation. Sure the coverage is bias, but getting the Media to change is going to take a much longer time.

Stay focused, Americans are smarter than the reporters that think their hogwash sells.

The only battle is getting the truth out....ignore the BS.

(BTW Hannity will be showing a new video this week, that could be ground breaking....he teased it on Thursday, and Dornan alluded to it on Friday)

gee williger · Seaman Recruit Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 24

I expect that there are still a few blockbusters out there, as much as the media would like this story to go away.

Time will tell.

bergstrom79 · Ensign Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 66

Once the POWs come out with their ads, it'll be front & center again. This won't die out any day soon, even if Kerry wins.

If Kerry wins, he'll be gone by jan 06. The medal flap alone will nail him so badly he'll be as tarred and feathered by the press (once they dispose of GWB, who they seem to wish to lose) as was Nixon and Clinton.

Once the press (and B G Burkett) gets their hooks into Kerry, he's toast. The guy has too many enemies to survive 4 yrs.

O'neill wins either way. If Kerry loses, it's victory for John O. If Kerry wins and resigns in disgrace, John O has his first choice for a prez in office, and Kerryfonda gets his just desserts.

rb325th · Admiral Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 1334

I would not be too concerned, as it is the MSM has been very Pro Kerry and there have been signs of some of the even more liberal media raising Questions.
There is so much more that has not been discussed, especialy regarding Kerrys Testimony and his activities in VVAW.
Patience, this battle is being waged against the entire Democratic Party and itscronies in the media, but for what its worth the media are story sharks and if they smell blood around Kerry they will swarm.
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LewWaters · Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:42 am Post subject:

Leftstream media is doing their best to ignore the Swift vets and pray they just go away. We still have some speaking of it and the internet is loaded, so they will just end up looking foolish again, with their pants down around their ankles. Laughing

Don't fall for the tactics of the leftstream media. The Swift vets are better financed now and don't appear to be going away. Let them ignore it, others aren't.
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cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

The MSM ignore the Swift Vets at their peril.

Look what happened the last time they were ignored.

They've shot themselves in the foot once already. Shooting themselves in the foot again while it is still in their mouth may well prove fatal.

Even if it's self-inflicted.
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Chuck54 · PO1 Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 466

The story ain't over till the swiftvets and their supporters say its over. We have the upper hand despite the dominance of the MSM.

As Jack Wheeler says, the swiftvets have money, brains, balls, and go for the jugular. Geez, our country is at stake here, and our freedom. Kerry is obviously a totalitarian who will stop at nothing to get what he wants and to stomp the opposition.

Kerry will meet his destiny, in the toilet of history.
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Dragoro · Lt.Jg. Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 122 Location: Michigan

Its not so much that the media is starting to win, as it is alot of people are growing tired of hearing the same stuff over and over again. That might just be the goal of the media to over enundate us with the coverage so that people begin to drown it out. SBVFT need to take on a new startegy, or do it in a new way, so that it brings back the interest in following it. One can only here the same thing so many times before it becomes old news and they tune it out.
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Polaris · Rear Admiral Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 626

Everyone,

I agree with Dragoro unfortunately. Being on the side of truth is all well and good, but the fact remains that most people have a limited attention span...especially if you have to fight a hostile MSM every step of the way. The problem as I see it is that the story has gotten stale. We need to either get new information that irrefutably proves the case against Kerry or we need to start a new tack...and we need to do it SOON. Already we are being dismissed as GOP operatives and already many (at least in the MSM) either have or are starting to stop listening.
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7rrfs · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 99

The biggest problem the SwiftVets have is the OFFICIAL documentaion that Kerry has released.

1. He does have the medals. He does have the official paperwork that accompanies same. Dispite the DD124, Combat "V" thing (which has no legs???) - all I hear is "The Official record supports Kerry." Thats what the public is hearing. Over and over. Only 25% of the voting public believes the SwiftVets!!!! I am flabbergasted.

2. See: #1.

For the life of me I dont see why the media isnt clammering for a signed SF 180. Many, if not most just parrot - "Kerry has all his military records on his web site." Now Newsweek and Time? ouch. We know its shallow water b.s. - the public doesnt. Hardly anyone is challenging Kerry on this. A few, but not enough and not loud enough.

So - the public only sees that the SwiftVets have a bone to pick - the antiwar thing - and are making things up to try to make Kerry out some sort of monster. "How dare they!"

This isnt good. A bomb is what the SwiftVets need to re-establish - beyond any doubt - that they have credibility wrt Kerry and his Vietnam service. Something that directly links Kerry to mis-deeds and something that isnt anecdotal. It must be cold hard documented fact. And it must have Kerrys 'finger prints' all over it.

There's what you know, and what you can prove. The public - more importantly the media - aint seeing no proof. At least none they are buying.
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