SwiftVets.com

[vickie]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40276-2004Aug27.html

"Stiff Drink Veterans for Kerry, Whoops We Mean for Brewsky, Whoops We Mean for Truth"

George Bush's Secret War

By Michael Kinsley
Sunday, August 29, 2004; Page B07

LOS ANGELES -- Veterans of George W. Bush's National Guard unit charged today that the president has misrepresented his military service during the Vietnam War. The veterans allege that during a period when the future president was supposed to be serving in the Texas Air National Guard, he was actually fighting in Vietnam.

"For more than 30 years we have remained silent," said the head of the group, which calls itself "Stiff Drink Veterans for Kerry, Whoops We Mean for Brewsky, Whoops We Mean for Truth." But, he added, "We want to be on Larry King just as much as those Swift Vote guys."

Two members of the group claim to be eyewitnesses. "It was a typical night at the Guard offices," one of them recalled at a press conference yesterday. "Okay, I'd had a few. But I personally saw George parachute down from a B-52, kill a dozen Cong with his bare hands, leap into one of those Swift boat thingies and stick his tongue out at John Kerry."

The White House yesterday strongly denied the Stiff Drink version of events. "As has been his policy throughout his entire life," a spokesman said, "the president never left the continental United States during the entire Vietnam era -- well, except for a few weekends in Tijuana. These Stiff Drink fellows are nothing more than a front for the Kerry campaign, which would like to convince the American people that George W. Bush is responsible for the Vietnam War."

The Stiff Drink story is not easy to confirm or refute. On one side, claiming that Bush has been lying, are two obscure drunks with close ties to the Democratic Party and longstanding grudges against the Bush family, which they claim cooperated with space aliens who kidnapped them to Crawford, Tex., or possibly Mars ("Who can tell?") and examined their genital areas. On the other side, confirming Bush's version of events, are 143 fellow reservists who have signed affidavits attesting that they saw the future president popping a Bud in the Guard offices at a time when the Stiff Drink group alleges he was on a secret mission to Hanoi, where he personally arm-wrestled Ho Chi Minh.

There is no documentary evidence supporting the view that Bush was in Vietnam. However, there is an extensive collection of speeding tickets from several Southern states, issued throughout the period in question to someone whose description resembles that of George W. Bush. This person, whose identity cannot be firmly established, called himself George W. Bush. He was driving a car registered to Bush and was carrying Bush's driver's license. In addition, there are photographs of Bush at the time in Texas papers, accompanying stories such as "Bush Son Seeks Own Way" (Houston Chronicle, March 28, 1969) and "Bush Son Still Seeking Own Way" (Dallas Morning News, Dec. 12, 1972).

Bush also kept a diary throughout this period. Supplied to reporters yesterday by the Bush-Cheney campaign, the diary contains multiple entries along the lines of, "Woke up. Terrible hangover. But at least I'm not in Vietnam. Thanks, Dad!"

Bush signed up for the Texas Air National Guard in 1968, to defend the state of Texas against the Viet Cong. In 1972 -- having decided, sources say, that Texas was now secure from communist infiltration -- he transferred his allegiance to a Guard unit in Alabama.

There has long been mystery and controversy about what exactly Bush did in Alabama and whether he fulfilled his reservist's obligation to show up and sharpen pencils for 45 minutes every other weekend. This is different from today's National Guard and Army Reserve policy, under which a recruiting officer leads young people to believe they are signing up for pencil-sharpening duty and then, as soon as they've signed, shouts "Aha! Gotcha!" and ships them off to a distant war.

"Look, Larry," the president told Barbara Walters in a recent interview, "just because I got away with it is no reason they should get away with it." Although Bush has never said what he was doing when he was supposed to be sharpening pencils for his country, he has not denied published hypothesizes that he spent the period drinking, sleeping and watching sports on TV. "It sounds easy," said one Bush friend from that era, "but keep in mind that in those days there might be only one game on the tube at any given time."

The Stiff Drink group, however, insists that Bush was actually flying sorties over Hanoi. And doing it without a plane. In the end, it is their word against his. The truth probably lies somewhere in between. And the full story of George Bush's secret war in Vietnam will never be known.

The writer is editorial and opinion editor of the Los Angeles Times

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[manelly]

They must know how stupid they sound. Don't they?

Do they want to have a fist fight after school on the playground or what?
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[LewWaters]

Be prepared for a lot of this coming from the leftstream media. Anything to ridicule the Swiftvets and make the charges Kerry can't answer appear silly.

It would be difficult to get much further left than Michael Kinsley.
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[Chuck54]

I guess Kerry has all but given up on the active and vet vote, what with his compadre kinsley spewing this trash and others to come.

They have no case so they throw mudballs. Its all they got....pathetic
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"And no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often, than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry"

Zell Miller

[jwb7605]

Silly as it sounds, this was a good rebuttal.

The intent is to sound so over the top that people who haven't paid attention to or looked into SBVFT claims won't, because they will assume that one stupid group is just arguing with another stupid group.

If the remaining number of people decide they don't have time for either, then the message doesn't get out.

[FredRum]

You can avoid most of what Michael Kinsley ever writes and rest assured that you haven't missed much...

http://www.lyinginponds.com/mkinsley.wp.html
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[drjohn]

Michael Kinsley, in his ___ (rhymes with set and begins with a w) dreams, wishes he was Geraldo Rivera.

[Dimsdale]

The really funny thing is that Kerry's Vietnam experience WAS a parody, a parody of the truth.

Kinsley has to compose a parody to ridicule the truth tellers, but the truth tellers simply have to write the truth about Kerry's lies. The ridicule comes naturally after that.
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Everytime he had a choice, Kerry chose to side with communists rather than the United States.

[Integrity]

Geedunk please. This is inane.
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"What our enemies have begun, we will finish,"
- President George W. Bush

[tvaughan]

Oh, my, they've been "parodied". Hit the deck!
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[The Balloon Artist]

In order to have a successful parody or satire there has to be an element of truth.
The problem with the left and their sense of humor is it lacks any grain of truth.
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What about John Kerry's four months in Vietnam qualify him to be president?
Al Gore was there for five.

[rb325th]

Know what is really funny? This is a rip off of a Parody of Bush done a little while back, where he was off in space fighting aliens. Some folks just can not come up with even bad parodies on their own it seems. I wish I could remember who did the other one or where I saw it.
I will be moving this on over to Geedunk momentarily.
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