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fortdixlover
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 Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 10:05 pm Post subject: Leftists: making a deal with the Devil |
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Leftists have a very, very odd idea.
It's called "Let's make a deal with the Devil."
Leftists believe that Detente with Islamofascism is both possible and desirable. In fact, liberals and leftists strive to understand and issue apologetics for the most illiberal ideology since Nazism, and perhaps of all time, while maintaining that America is the oppressive society and that Islamofascism is a result of America's insensitivity to other cultures. They believe that the murderous intentions of Islamofascists can be appeased if the U.S. "makes nice" and promises to pull out of the Middle East and leave them alone.
Detente with Islamofascism. Truly bizarre. |
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: Leftists: making a deal with the Devil |
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| fortdixlover wrote: | | Detente with Islamofascism. Truly bizarre. |
Or truly ignorant.
Or both.
They want to apply their utopian ideals to this country and to their ideas about how to react to this war that has been declared on us.
They don't understand just who it is that we are dealing with, how determined the enemy, how much the enemy is willing to sacrifice in their "Third Great Jihad."
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Detente with Islamofascism? Nahhh. I've never heard anyone on the left propose this.
I just don't believe we should have let the neocons sucker us into carrying out their agenda, and that includes conquering a country without WMD's, without a link to Islamofascism, all without meaningful worldwide support.
Thanks to them, the world considers the US a greater threat to world peace than Al Qaeda. Boy, Bush screwed up and pissed away the world's goodwill after 9/11 and the very things we require to combat islamofascism are greatly impaired: allied cooperation, intelligence, and support of locals in the field.
If only they'd realized *before* invading Iraq that this is an enemy without borders or governmental sponsorship. They're only now admitting this mistake. |
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| sparky wrote: | Detente with Islamofascism? Nahhh. I've never heard anyone on the left propose this.
I just don't believe we should have let the neocons sucker us into carrying out their agenda, and that includes conquering a country without WMD's, without a link to Islamofascism, all without meaningful worldwide support.
Thanks to them, the world considers the US a greater threat to world peace than Al Qaeda. Boy, Bush screwed up and pissed away the world's goodwill after 9/11 and the very things we require to combat islamofascism are greatly impaired: allied cooperation, intelligence, and support of locals in the field.
If only they'd realized *before* invading Iraq that this is an enemy without borders or governmental sponsorship. They're only now admitting this mistake. |
I bet all you leftist war criminal supporters just pine for the World's Approval for what we do... or don't do.
Well, here's a bulletin for ya, Sparky... I could give a pop-corn fart about what the rest of the world "thinks."
We can and will win this war. We can do it with the cooperation of people and foreign nations with the warped view you demonstrate in each of your posts, or we will win it without their assistance.
If that means invading every muslim country on Earth... so be it. No matter what the World "thinks."
Otherwise, we just become a bigger and bigger impact area for those you sympathize with. And that ain't gonna happen. |
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fortdixlover
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| sparky wrote: | Detente with Islamofascism? Nahhh. I've never heard anyone on the left propose this.
I just don't believe we should have let the neocons sucker us into carrying out their agenda, and that includes conquering a country without WMD's, without a link to Islamofascism, all without meaningful worldwide support.
Thanks to them, the world considers the US a greater threat to world peace than Al Qaeda. Boy, Bush screwed up and pissed away the world's goodwill after 9/11 and the very things we require to combat islamofascism are greatly impaired: allied cooperation, intelligence, and support of locals in the field.
If only they'd realized *before* invading Iraq that this is an enemy without borders or governmental sponsorship. They're only now admitting this mistake. |
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"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998
"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others
"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002
"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998
"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998
"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002
"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002
"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002
"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003
"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998
"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002
"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002
"Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction." -- Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002
"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002
"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002
"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002
"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." -- John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002
"Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States." -- Joe Lieberman, August, 2002
"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction." -- Patty Murray, October 9, 2002
"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998
"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002
"Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq’s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002
"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration’s policy towards Iraq, I don’t think there can be any question about Saddam’s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002 |
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sparky
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I think that the Democrats learned their lesson about trusting Bush when he claims to have intelligence about WMD's or Nigerian yellow cake Uranium. As for those Democrats who suspected or believed that Saddam had WMD's, they didn't lead the nation into war prematurely and without international cooperation and they wouldn't have.
As a result, they wouldn't have put us in the position of being considered more dangerous than Iran or Syria.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2994924.stm
I also believe that they'd have had the good sense to realize that the prison torture/murder scandal would ultimately work against America's interests, unlike top BushCorp Inc officials who ignored credible reports for months without taking action.
Have we learned our lesson about the importance of international cooperation? I don't think so. The propaganda machine still has too many people unaware that Saddam didn't have WMD's or that there was no Bin Ladin link.
Boy, Bush screwed up and pissed away the world's goodwill after 9/11 and the very things we require to combat islamofascism are greatly impaired: allied cooperation, intelligence, and support of locals in the field.
To not care about what potential allies think in this time of crisis when we need as much help as we can get ranks as one of the most reckless and foolish sentiments I've heard regarding 9/11 and its aftermath. |
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I bet all you leftist war criminal supporters just pine for the World's Approval for what we do... or don't do.
Well, here's a bulletin for ya, Sparky... I could give a pop-corn fart about what the rest of the world "thinks."
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No, and that's part of the problem.
Your ethnocentrism.
Your failure to understand that we live in a complicated world.
Your failure to demand that your leaders consider others interests as well as your own.
As long as it is some remote ineffective foreign policy. You don't care.
You don't care, until these forces rise up and form terrorist organizations and strike in your backyard.
Then you don't ask why or how this happened.
All you do is demand blood.
Now as we try to hand the pandora's box of Iraq back to the UN, all the sudden you should realize:
There is give and take in this world, we don't live in a vacuum. Ignorance is no justification for failing to take further considerations. |
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Quote: "Leftists have a very, very odd idea.
It's called "Let's make a deal with the Devil."
Yes, and his name is George Soros! By his own admissions.(bragging,really.) Evil old BASTARD ! |
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Jeremy Eaton
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| Marine's Wife wrote: | Quote: "Leftists have a very, very odd idea.
It's called "Let's make a deal with the Devil."
Yes, and his name is George Soros! By his own admissions.(bragging,really.) Evil old BASTARD ! |
Soros is evil? Tell us more. |
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fortdixlover
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| Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeremy Eaton wrote: | | Quote: |
I bet all you leftist war criminal supporters just pine for the World's Approval for what we do... or don't do.
Well, here's a bulletin for ya, Sparky... I could give a pop-corn fart about what the rest of the world "thinks."
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No, and that's part of the problem.
Your ethnocentrism.
Your failure to understand that we live in a complicated world.
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Leftists have immense chutzpah uttering the wrod "ethnocentrism" when they adhere to pre-montheistic idolatry and barbarism (a.k.a. "moral relativity"), resulting in the brutal murder of millions which they accept since the ends (their fabled utopia-on-earth) justifies the means (the alliance or tolerance of Islamofascism and other brutal, ghastly dictators and ideologies who also just happen to hate Western culture in general, and America specifically).
The blood of countless victims gurgling down the sewers and the massacre camp drains, the frozen bodies in the gulag, the human smoke belching from the ovens of Nazi Germany - there are few if any decent leftists existing who would take responsibility for, and apologize for, their facilitation of mass murder.
Leftists are a vile, despicable, loathesome group of human beings, morally no better than the murderers they support. Perhaps worse, because they claim to know better and to be the 'elite' to guide the masses. They are filled with rage that trumps any possibility of logic and rational thought, that has literally exploded in their heads beyond their control. This was in part a result of the spectacular failure of their coveted, darling USSR, Cuba, N. Korea, etc. to produce anything of value, instead producing famine, poverty, destruction and mass misery, and discrediting their beloved theories and dogmas.
Leftists have cracked.
On "ethnocentrism", Islamofascism is an ideology that must be thoroughly discredited and abolished, as we did to Nazism. Bush understands this; Kerry does not. Take your "ethnocentrism" and shove it (shove it out of a burning WTC and down 100 stories to a bone-cracking death).
Leftism must meet a similar fate to Islamofacism.
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Jeremy Eaton
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| fortdixlover wrote: | | Jeremy Eaton wrote: | | Quote: |
I bet all you leftist war criminal supporters just pine for the World's Approval for what we do... or don't do.
Well, here's a bulletin for ya, Sparky... I could give a pop-corn fart about what the rest of the world "thinks."
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No, and that's part of the problem.
Your ethnocentrism.
Your failure to understand that we live in a complicated world.
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Leftists have immense chutzpah uttering the wrod "ethnocentrism" when they adhere to pre-montheistic idolatry and barbarism (a.k.a. "moral relativity"), resulting in the brutal murder of millions which they accept since the ends (their fabled utopia-on-earth) justifies the means (the alliance or tolerance of Islamofascism and other brutal, ghastly dictators and ideologies who also just happen to hate Western culture in general, and America specifically).
The blood of countless victims gurgling down the sewers and the massacre camp drains, the frozen bodies in the gulag, the human smoke belching from the ovens of Nazi Germany - there are few if any decent leftists existing who would take responsibility for, and apologize for, their facilitation of mass murder.
Leftists are a vile, despicable, loathesome group of human beings, morally no better than the murderers they support. Perhaps worse, because they claim to know better and to be the 'elite' to guide the masses. They are filled with rage that trumps any possibility of logic and rational thought, that has literally exploded in their heads beyond their control. This was in part a result of the spectacular failure of their coveted, darling USSR, Cuba, N. Korea, etc. to produce anything of value, instead producing famine, poverty, destruction and mass misery, and discrediting their beloved theories and dogmas.
Leftists have cracked.
On "ethnocentrism", Islamofascism is an ideology that must be thoroughly discredited and abolished, as we did to Nazism. Bush understands this; Kerry does not. Take your "ethnocentrism" and shove it (shove it out of a burning WTC and down 100 stories to a bone-cracking death).
Leftism must meet a similar fate to Islamofacism.
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You seem to have attacked me without attacking the meaning of what I stated. Who said I was "for" Islamofacism? I believe in attacking the problem and not the people.
Riddle me this... what gives rise to Islamofacism, and how does it differ from Islam? |
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| Jeremy Eaton wrote: |
Riddle me this... what gives rise to Islamofacism, and how does it differ from Islam? |
This is why you aren't worth the trouble to discuss this issue with.
Wahhabism, the branch of Islam that created the Islamo-Bolshiveks we have today, began in a time when the US Navy still used sails and wooden ships.
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| Quote: | You seem to have attacked me without attacking the meaning of what I stated. Who said I was "for" Islamofacism? I believe in attacking the problem and not the people.
Riddle me this... what gives rise to Islamofacism, and how does it differ from Islam? |
Jeremy, you were not attacked personally. He said nothing about you in particular, or said that his post was about you. He responded to what you said, and was talking in generalities about liberals. If you fit that mold, then I can see where you feel that you were attacked. If you are not like that, then you have nothing to be upset about.
But since you feel that you were attacked personally, then what was said must be the truth, and it bothers you to face that truth.
FRIGGIN WAR WOOF!
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Jeremy Eaton
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| War Dog wrote: | | Quote: | You seem to have attacked me without attacking the meaning of what I stated. Who said I was "for" Islamofacism? I believe in attacking the problem and not the people.
Riddle me this... what gives rise to Islamofacism, and how does it differ from Islam? |
Jeremy, you were not attacked personally. He said nothing about you in particular, or said that his post was about you. He responded to what you said, and was talking in generalities about liberals. If you fit that mold, then I can see where you feel that you were attacked. If you are not like that, then you have nothing to be upset about.
But since you feel that you were attacked personally, then what was said must be the truth, and it bothers you to face that truth.
FRIGGIN WAR WOOF! |
Actually I think the post did reference me as I was the one who made the "ethnocentrism" comment. The post still stands...and I would like appreciate a more appropriate reply. |
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Jeremy Eaton
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| fortdixlover wrote: | | Jeremy Eaton wrote: | | Quote: |
I bet all you leftist war criminal supporters just pine for the World's Approval for what we do... or don't do.
Well, here's a bulletin for ya, Sparky... I could give a pop-corn fart about what the rest of the world "thinks."
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No, and that's part of the problem.
Your ethnocentrism.
Your failure to understand that we live in a complicated world.
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Leftists have immense chutzpah uttering the wrod "ethnocentrism" when they adhere to pre-montheistic idolatry and barbarism (a.k.a. "moral relativity"), resulting in the brutal murder of millions which they accept since the ends (their fabled utopia-on-earth) justifies the means (the alliance or tolerance of Islamofascism and other brutal, ghastly dictators and ideologies who also just happen to hate Western culture in general, and America specifically).
The blood of countless victims gurgling down the sewers and the massacre camp drains, the frozen bodies in the gulag, the human smoke belching from the ovens of Nazi Germany - there are few if any decent leftists existing who would take responsibility for, and apologize for, their facilitation of mass murder.
Leftists are a vile, despicable, loathesome group of human beings, morally no better than the murderers they support. Perhaps worse, because they claim to know better and to be the 'elite' to guide the masses. They are filled with rage that trumps any possibility of logic and rational thought, that has literally exploded in their heads beyond their control. This was in part a result of the spectacular failure of their coveted, darling USSR, Cuba, N. Korea, etc. to produce anything of value, instead producing famine, poverty, destruction and mass misery, and discrediting their beloved theories and dogmas.
Leftists have cracked.
On "ethnocentrism", Islamofascism is an ideology that must be thoroughly discredited and abolished, as we did to Nazism. Bush understands this; Kerry does not. Take your "ethnocentrism" and shove it (shove it out of a burning WTC and down 100 stories to a bone-cracking death).
Leftism must meet a similar fate to Islamofacism.
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Nice bit of prose Fox, but wholly without any real substantiating basis. Please try to give example or basis for what you post rather than this demogogic blather. You equate the leftist as the enemy. Provided we are working with the same definition ,which is unlikely unfortunately; Does that mean your leftist neighbor with whom you disagree with is your enemy? To me, that is healthy democracy. An ecosystem of opinions that balance and create healthy mature debate, to freely arrive at the best solutions and wisest action.
If I were to say garbage men are "the most vile, despicable"... I would at least have to provide some evidence before I made a damning generalization of this nature.
If you are blaming Nazi Germany on "Leftists", I am amused. Why not blame the genocide in east Timor on Conservatives? Why do Conservatives complain that the "useful idiots" are dividing the country when it is you that is complaining that "Leftists" (whatever you mean by that) are the enemy? |
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