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[USAF66-70]

Cuda asks: “what could he say that would do him some good?”

I don’t think Kerry can do the full SBVT apology noted in their August 31, 2004 letter to Kerry. Political suicide IMHO.

However, assuming he shows up, I think he’ll attempt a half ass apology at American Legion tomorrow—muddy the waters, attempt to acquire some political advantage and maybe convince McCain he’s “apologized,” and then maybe accuse the SBVT guys of not keeping their side of the agreement when they refuse to stop the ads. He has to do something.

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[Chuck54]

[ord33]

I agree with USAF66-70 100%, I think you nailed it exactly, and this is in fact what Sen. Kerry will do tomorrow. Like USAF66-70 said, Kerry will make a half-assed apology, or saying he was "a bit over the top" BS, and then spin it to say that he apologized, and demand, cry, & whine when the SwiftVets dont take down their ads.

[Nomorelies]

Yeah. He could make a little-bitty acknowledgment that he may have been a little bit too-too and then turn around and claim that he apologized. He can't genuinely apologize because he still thinks he was right, just as Joe Klein wrote in TIME magazine that what Kerry did was "honorable."
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[Dane]

The letter is not shown in the Press release section. I hope that it has been released - this morning, hopefully IOT make it into the morning papers and broadcasts.

Dane

[BuffaloJack]

1. Return undeserved medals to Navy with letter of regret and explanation.
2. Apologize to all the vets and declare that he was wrong in his accusations of war crimes and atrocities.
3. Resign from all public offices and swear to never seek office again.
4. Condemn Hanoi
5. Condemn Hanoi Jane.
6. Set up a perpetual fund for disabled war veterans.

[sevry]

[sevry]

[SJorgensen]

As a Democrat I want Kerry to drop out and renounce the nomination of the Democratic party.

Let me have John Edwards and then let us have an honest election.

I have a feeling that Kerry is going to give us some political drama that only he knows how to give.

He isn't about being a Senator. He is about being a POLITICIAN. He knows more about giving the public the "Big Lie" than even Hitler.

Of course I think the same of his Skull and Bones brother Bush.
I can't stand either one of them.

[GiveMeFreedom]

[USAF66-70]

Sevry worries that SBVT don’t “grasp defeat from the jaws of victory.” Not at all Sevry, IMHO. Here’s why:

In a nutshell, If Kerry provides a “full public disclosure and a public apology” for all his Vietnam protest lies, exaggerations, & medal tossing; fully clarifies Bay Hap incident; affirms the PH’s were self inflicted scratches; & acknowledges Cambodia was all BS; then SBVT will be “satisfied that the American public has been sufficiently apprised as to these aspects of your career, and we will discontinue the media advertisements you have sought so fervently to silence.”

“Swift Boat Veterans for Truth are eager to close our own personal chapters on Vietnam and instead focus on the war we're currently fighting—the ongoing war on terrorism.” IMHO, this is absolutely the right & honorable thing to do.

Undoubtedly, this would be a win-win. America/its political process wins and SBVT/all vets win. However, Kerry would almost certainly be sunk. Unlike the SBVT, he’ll not do the right thing. He’ll never provide a “full public disclosure and a public apology.”

However, some of us expect he’ll attempt a half-ass “apology.”

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[sevry]

[W.P. Wily]

The letter from SBVfT heightens my concern that a route has opened up for Kerry to give a half-assed apology and E & E the whole issue.

My own thought is that he will address point 1 in the letter, and go on at length about being caught up in the "mood of the times", and the "unjustness of the war", blah, blah, blah which led him to become overly dramatic. I think if he mentions point 4, it will be a "faulty memory" excuse, "seared" notwithstanding.

Then, as I mentioned in my previous post, the spin machine starts with the "what more do you want, he's apologized".

Even if he only addresses point 1 in the letter, the vast majority will accept that Kerry apologized and dismiss any of the other SBVfT points as nit-picking. Further SWVfT ads would just solidify the belief that SBVfT are irrational hate-mongers, allowing the MSM to disregard their message without a second thought. In fact, more ads after an "apology" could very likely cause a backlash effect in Kerry's favor.

Sorry, just calling it as I see it.

Edit: Then again, maybe they really are stupid:

http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6922

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

Please read the letter again.

John Kerry is said to be set to launch a further attack on the Swifts in his speech the American Legion tomorrow.

He has to go through with that or he will look like he is backing down.

There is no way that he can answer the charges that the Swifts have made in that letter without losing credibility.

Note, he wasn't given the option to "Just do any ONE of the above and we'll stop." The conditions were completely laid out as to what John Kerry can do to make the ads stop. Brilliant move, Swifts!!!!

John Kerry, in his narcissism, will NEVER agree to those conditions.

He doesn't even believe that any of what he did was wrong, folks! The only traction coming out of this is going to go to the Swifts.
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[Dane]

I can´t believe that he is going to address the VFW. On the surface, this seems the height of stupidity. So he must have a game plan. Perhaps, after being politely listened to, he will use that as "proof" that the vets are not against him and, therefore, it is just "one" political attack group that is after him?

Dane