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cjg · PO3 Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 254

I was beginning to wonder if Tony was ever going to make a decision on
what he thinks about Kerry. He played it very cool in the beginning and
did not really speak about the Swiftvets one way or the other.

To read what he said about the Kerry group is great, he has a fun website
partly serious, partly just fun and is a good talk show host. Wink

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BuffaloJack · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:47 pm Post subject:

works4me · Seaman Recruit Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 13

Don't forget all the democtatic voter fraud. I am sure they have added another million or so dead people to the rolls.

You folks are right not until we see 49 states in the electoral college is it done!

You GottaBeKidding · Rear Admiral Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 692

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130079,00.html

Tony Snow's commentary on the Swiftees

Admin note: Can this link be dated? AFAIK, this is several weeks old.

jataylor11 · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject:

Its not enough until all of those crowds who spout

"I'm against the war but I support the troops", or

"I am protesting the war because I support the troops"

Protest while soldiers are in harms way aids and abets the enemy.

leeinwv · PO3 Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 268

Cuda · Seaman Recruit Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 27

zinfella · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject:

Tony has also been a sit in host ro Rush Limbaugh. He's a very bright guy, and a solid conservative.
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Nutso · PO3 Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 271 Location: Minnesota

2 Months to go, we can do it, whats the old saying, Short timers?? 2 digit midgit?? No matter what ya call it, its going to be a lot longer for Johnny the Commy than it is for us.

ken · Seaman Recruit Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 1

I'm struck by the potential for history repeating itself. Remember how the Clinton cabinet members and Al Gore came out en masse in front of the White House to blindly defend Clinton, in particular Donna Shalala (sp?), before it was discovered that Clinton lied to them? (Shalala almost resigned over the lies.) This memory came rushing back as now John Glenn was paraded out to sing from the Democratic hymnal. I have the feeling that we may soon see a repeat of moral and integrity gymnastics by the likes of Glenn, Cleland et al.

With the Cambodia tale, fable(?), imploding, with the first purple heart being seriously questioned, as well as the Rassmann "heroic" rescue, the sampan rice incident, the post-service anti-war/consorting with the enemy issue just beginning, one day this will all come to a head. I see apologies and admissions by Kerry (start counting the use of the "Fog of War" phrase) followed by the James Carville/Lanny Davis attempts to minimize the situation with the same reasoning they used when the Cambodia tale was exposed, to paraphrase: because after all who cares what happened 30 years ago or that's minor, who cares or GWB was AWOL, is behind the ads, is a dope, is a deserter ad nauseum.

What then will these former vets do if and when they find out they've been used? How foolish will they look as they try to nuance they're unwavering support. It is so dangerous to risk the honor and meaning of your own heroism, attested to and championed by others, on another's, mainly and primarily touted by himself and questioned legitimately by many others who were there.

This eventuality, and I do think it is coming, will be worth the price of admission. Kerry's gamble, that the story will go away before he is pressured to release all documents and his diary (or they are leaked), is not one I'd make. Probably, because only Kerry knows where the unexploded mines reside. Stay tuned!

lrb111 · Captain Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 508

cedarford · Former Member Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 22

Tommy Franks?

Give him credit as America's best tactical General since WWII. Another Patton.

But not a very good strategic General.

Tora Bora. The Iraq post-war.

When Eisenhower hit Normandy, he already had people and resources assigned to every civil affairs function needed as he recaptured French territory, and plans completed for running Germany, right down to the post offices.

Same with McArthur and the Philippines, Japan.

(Edited Remarks - Quota for Kerry Talking Points Exceeded - Admin)

Hammer2 · PO2 Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 387 Location: Texas

I think that the for the hard leftists that currently run the Democratic party, the real skunk at the picnic is their roots in the anti-war movement and the extreme, anti-American, pro communist lines they espoused at the time. Many of these former activists moved over into the political arena and have adopted new camoflage.
Look at Kerry's campaign, he is surrounded by hard leftists, not the least of which is is old friend John Hurley. John Hurley is Kerry's old friend from the VVAW days and the head of Veterans for Kerry. Another of Kerry's VVAW buddies, Scott Camil, is a campaign aide to the Kerry campaign in Florida. Scott Camil, in case you didn't know, is the man who proposed the plot to kill Conservative Senators to the VVAW. At least Scot Camil dosen't try to hide his past or present radical politics, unlike the rest of this crowd.
If Kerry was really the centrist he pretends to be, why does he surround himself with the radicals he claims to have abandoned?

Links to documentation:
About plot and Scott Camil: http://daily.nysun.com/Repository/getFiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib:ArticleToMail&Type=text/html&Path=NYS/2004/03/12&ID=Ar00100
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lrb111 · Captain Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 508

zinfella · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:59 pm Post subject:

One cannot compare how WWII was run with how wars are run today. sure, I know that letting the military do what they know how to do is the fast track to victory. But, victory is not defined now as it was in WWII. There's far too much concern for political ramifications nowadays, and less attention to "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" Victory must be a fact before any restructuring can occur. Victory means weeding out leftover resistance before declaring an and to conflict. Contrast this with how the military is allowed to function today. The civilian control is afraid to let the military loose because it's more concerned with how others will view their actions. This is the recipe for disaster for the fighting men and women who become collateral damage due to being restricted from eliminating the enemy, and then become targets for the very guys that should have been wiped out to begin with.

Don't misunderstand, I do not profess to have the same level of knowledge that our leaders have about intelligence. But it is a given that civilian masters are not up to the nuances of a well trained military, or what they can accomplish if just left to do the job without interferrence from those not on the battlefield.
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