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Chuck Z Ombie AC2000 · Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:03 pm Post subject:

The New York Times is slanted crap worse than most of the papers out there, but if they say there is an investigation or report of an event, i tend to believe it. Im not calling anyone here a liar but im just giving my opinion that Newsmax and freerublic tend to overexaggerate and oversensationalize a small story into a big one and i advise waiting to see if it comes to fruition before reporting it as fact.
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Wing Wiper · Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:03 pm Post subject:

If the Navy wants to look into and release portions of Kerry's records, this is a sure-fire way to do it. I have a feeling this story is going to pick up some steam, and we're going to start to see some "leaks" fairly quickly. Another "flank" attack for Kerry to defend against. If his campaign staff starts to appear sleepless and stressed, we'll have a good indication. We need to keep the pressure on and see if some of them quit. I believe they will. Very Happy

Lendorien · Seaman Recruit Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 17

The only problem I have with an official Navy investigation is that if, by chance, they do come to a conclusion int he next 2 months that is against Kerry, Kerry will cry foul and accuse bush of performing a schmere campaign against him using his "friends" in the navy. While this may sould like the squakings of a turkey to some, other's like the many who believe that the Swiftvets are simply a front for bush, will gobble up Kerry's accusations as gospel truth.

The legitimacy of the investigation will be questioned, as willt he speed of the inquiry. Why, when it takes years for others, was this matter rushed through in 2 months? Were the people who did it fully impartial, especially given the fact that it was rushed?

And it's not like republicans in office haven't misused their stations before... Nixon comes to mind.

Just a thought.

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

Oh, boy, just what we need - another excuse to hear four more years of whining that this Presidency is illegitimate. Rolling Eyes

If the Navy comes out with any official report on this before the election, I would be VERY surprised. I am going to PRAY that the Navy won't address this in any way until after the election. When an official Navy spokesman announces something, I'll listen.

As BrianC has pointed out, what newsmax says is not what newsmax wants you to think it says.

This is a story from last week, dressed up with some new verbiage to add credibility. The extra verbiage doesn't even address Kerry's situation, specifically, I might add.

To top it all off, it looks to me like Lipscomb is wrong about the four stars - cipher has posted a pretty clear case that each one of those devices were earned... check out the Consolidation thread in R & R - I think he added a link to his list of campaigns for which Kerry was eligible for those devices.

This is a very tiny part of the story, even if all of it is true.

Let's work on VVAW and WSI and meeting with the enemy in Paris so that visitors in the next couple of weeks will get an eye full of real meat.

Thanks,
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Becky · Seaman Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 179 Location: Georgia

Judicial watch has submitted their complaint and the following
is a link (PDF document and you need adobe acrobat to read it)
stamp dated Sept 1 2004

http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2004/navykerry.pdf

"On August 18, 2004, Judicial Watch filed a complaint and request for
investigation and final disposition of awards granted to Kerry with the
Inspectors General of the Department of Defense and the Department
of the Navy, as well as the Chief of Naval Operations and the Navy’s
Board of Decorations and Medals."

Their (JW) website is:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/

ArmyWife · Lieutenant Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 218

The Ghost · Seaman Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 160

do we want the navy to come out with a report after the election ?? what would kerry do pardon himself if he won the election ?? this could be the biggest mess if he was to become president and then have to step down

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

But, SECNAV Lehman has not said that his signature has been misused, to my knowledge.
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NavyChief · Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:15 pm Post subject:

Sonar5 · Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject:

NavyChief, I pray you are correct...

My only fear is this will not occur until after the election...

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Wing Wiper · Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject:

Navy Chief: In your opinion, from what you know right now (and I don't need to hear any details), does this story have legs as far as an official Navy investigation? Yes/No
Thanks

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

Moving to the geedunk, shortly....
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