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neverforget · Vice Admiral Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 875

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is one of 4 in Cluster B Personality Disorders. The others are:

1. Anti-Social;
2. Borderline;
3. Histrionic.

They all have some characteristics that are similar across type. One of which---and perhaps the main one---is a sense of ENTITLEMENT. It is not that the person will walk are around saying they are entitled or necessarily saying "give me this or give me that," but their various behaviors will demand it by placing others in positions of making it difficult to deny them and dangerous if they do, so watch out. All four of these personality disorders can be perilous to your mental health if you have to interact with them for any extended period; therefore, it is not a good idea to elect them to the presidency.

They also tend to occur in Dissociative Identity Disorder, formally Multiple Personality Disorder. They also occurred in the last president and his wife; not multiple personality disorder, though, to the best of my knowledge.

I am a retired commenity mental health clinician.

gia_lin_fo · Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:45 pm Post subject:

9 for 9. How is this treated? Given we cannot accede to his delusion, do we give him a dose of
reality. In a national cathartic movement, should we not send him packing?
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neverforget · Vice Admiral Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 875

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is very, very difficult to treat. I'm retired, so I don't want to even try.

I say vote him down and out.

Jerry M · Ensign Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 57

One of the most telling things I have read related to Kerry's flip flopping was in an article by David Broder, liberal Washington Post columnist. Broder said that "in a 2002 conversation, Kerry told me he thought it would be doubly advantageous that "I fought in Vietnam and also I fought against the Vietnam War," apparently not recognizing that some would see far too much political calculation in such a bifurcated record". Sound a little like I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it. The Democrats try to characterize his contradictory positions as that of a complex, nuanced man. There is nothing nuanced about him. He is a man with no integrity who intentionally takes two sides of an issue for pure political purposes. I don't know what that makes him in psychologocal terms but there is no doubt in my mind that this is a sick man.

retreadhiker · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:31 am Post subject:

I would like to suggest that Kerry's cluster is "clusterf#@k" as in "a walking clusterf#@k".
I can't beleive that I stumbled upon this thread. I am a graduate student in counseling and I have a class this semester on psychopathology ehich uses the DSM IV as a text. I'm thinking of printing some of these entries and sliding them under the door of a couple of my professors who support Kerry.

Aristotle The Hun · PO1 Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 488 Location: Naples FL

The Balloon Artist · PO3 Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 262 Location: Texas

In social services I cross thes folks quite frequently.

Not to be confused with conceite.

Conceit says I am the "Best one"

Narcissism says "I am the only one"

No responsibilty for their actions.

Everything is someone elses fault.

Self promoting

Hieghtened sense of expectancy

Low tolerance for stress or not getting their way.

Immaturity

No insight
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What about John Kerry's four months in Vietnam qualify him to be president?
Al Gore was there for five.