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gator60 · Seaman Recruit Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 36

When I came back to the world,shot up and in a wheel chair, I was greeted by the band of brothers the vietnam vets agenst the war. Two of them came over with a can of coke, full of urine and poored it on me. If I had a gun I would have shot them dead. You don't understand what that did to me. Every time I see that piece crap on tv. I want to puke. I am 60 years old now and don't walk verry well. So you understand why so many of us are upset. John Kerry is saying hes not going to take anyone questioning his pratriotism. Well John you are not a patriot, or a hero, you are a trator.

Michael Guest · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject:

One short observation.

Never is the truth the wrong tactic. There is no way to put a silver saddle on Jackass John. It doesn't fit. Why he continues to make false claims and have his little Jackasses screaming liar is totally amazing to me. The national media hasn't investigated, and probably will not investigate the truth. WE as veterans must set the record straight.

Michael Guest

Doc Jerry · Commander Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 339

Texas Cop:

I would tend to agree with you to some degree. For this reason: Talking to many of my friends (and esp. those who are not vets), they understand the issue of J. Fn Kerry's slandering of an entire generation of veterans, because it's well documented and coming from his double-talking mouth. Kerry's own statements in 1971 and thereafter are very difficult to counter and debate. It's like a written and signed admission of guilt for your cops.

Saying that, the Swiftees in my opinion, earned the right to criticize J.F. Kerry. In addition, many of them were witnesses to the events. Many of them obviously know Kerry better than we do.

If you've not done so already, I would also suggest you read, "Unfit for Command." I think you'll understand their anger much better.

Medics, we're there when you need us.

baldeagl · PO3 Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 260 Location: Texas

Would it make a difference to you if you knew that John Kerry didn't volunteer for Vietnam? That he tried to get a deferment so he could travel to Paris, and when that didn't work he joined the Naval Reserves in an effort to avoid getting drafted? That two years later he was called up? That when he volunteered for Swift boat duty he thought it would be safe coastal patrol duty? That when he was assigned to An Thoi originally he bitched and moaned so loud about being in a combat zone that after one week! he was sent back to Cat Lo, which was safer duty?

Those are the facts. I admire people who volunteered for Vietnam. That took guts. Kerry did not volunteer.
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Mooncusser · Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:36 am Post subject:

Baldeagl,

You are right...when I was in the army there was a form called a 1049 (request for transfer)...I volunteered for Vietnam by filling out a 1049.

If Kerry volunteered for Vietnam there should be a 1049 form in his file !!!

Bet there ain't.
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stop kerry · Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:51 am Post subject:

Texascop I believe you are sincere but the switboat vets (I'm just an Army vet) are on a mission to expose kerry for his lies in VN in which he received the silver star, bronze star and 3 purple hearts(did he bleed?) in just 4 weeks and while he was the head and 'spokesman' of the VVAW. In 1970-71 he called ALL VN vets murders. As an example if today was apr. 22,1971 John kerry would be claiming in congress "that our soldiers in Iraq are like the Islamic killers today in Russia which caused the death of 200 children"-don't let the DNC hired front-men/media spin convince you otherwise. You shoud read their book and also here is an article which says it all--John Kerry's Blood Libel:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40278

eziek · Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:19 am Post subject: Truth

TexasCop,

Just the truth...anything less will represent gross negligence of our collective duty to the remarkable men and woman who are sacrificing their daily comfort, psyche, and lives to allow us to continue our pursuits in safety. Truth is an imperative to continue to attract the best and brightest to sacrifice for a greater good. The courage of SBVT is based on this ideal and is enormously admired for there is no combat pay, no medals to be awarded in this 24/7 fire fight against the unprecendented attacks from every corner in this country supposedly founded on freedom of speech. Be proud of your service, we are proud of you. Make no mistake though, Kerry's actions in 'combat' are despicable and his deeds in VVAW are worthy of imprisonment.

Loyalty above all else except honor.
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Hueygunner · Lt.Jg. Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 127 Location: Kentucky

rb325th · Admiral Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 1334

Let me just ad this bit of second hand commentary I heard this morning.
I met a Vietnam Veteran, Bronze Star and Purple Heart Recipient. Spoke of an incident in wich his Platoon was hit by a B-40, 2 men Medivaced and he himself wounded with a fragment to the face. He did not place himself in for a Purple Heart for it and did not recieve one for it. He still had the scar on his face though small, but he did not feel it was worth getting a PH for after watching 2 of his men get flown out with serious wounds to their extremities.While telling me this story he continually expressed his distaste for Kerry and his "Medal Hunt".
Yes, those who went there deserve our Praise for their Service. Kerry seems to have taken his time there and turned it into his own version of "To Hell and Back". His writings, letters and journal and conflicting comments over the years, show a man who exaggerated greatly what it was he was doing and what he did (from his letters while on the Gridley) to getting his first PH for what even the Kerry Campaign had to admit came from unintentional self inflicted wounds (for wich he was initially turned down for a PH).
By the way the Veteran I met this morning had not one positive thing to say about JFnKerry and the way he left Vietnam, and a lot of anger about his activities afterwards!
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TexasCop · Seaman Recruit Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 10

I plan on purchasing Unfit for Command tomorrow. I tried to get it tonight, but Walmart happens to have two dozen Bill Klinton memoirs on the rack, but no Unfit for Command books. I'll swing by the mall tomorrow to pick one up.
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jalexson · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:52 am Post subject:

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USMC-Pride · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:50 am Post subject:

Another reason the swiftees have gone after his service in country as well as actions after is they feel if he got any of his PH for a wound that didn't qualify for one, he owes the U.S. Navy 250+ more days of combat service before he can call himself "hero" or run for the highest office in the land. Read the book and then pass it on to your friends to read.
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Mooncusser · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:11 pm Post subject:

Texas cop,

I suggest the book "Stolen Valor", also.
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I actually won the election before I lost it.

"It is a good day to fight! It is a good day to die! Strong hearts, brave hearts to the front! Weak hearts and cowards to the rear!" (Crazy Horse)