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[roughfun]

The border is like swiss cheese. Anyone can get thru any time they want. the big myth is that they sneak in. They walk in by the thousands daily and no one cares. They pretend to but if you live in the SoWest you know there is no real attempt to put an end to it. The Border Patrol itself works hard but they are hampered by rules that make it impossible to do their jobs effectivly. As veterens I think we all feel somthings in the air but it could be anything,anytime,anywhere. Semper Fi.

[rb325th]

The Chechen situattion is not just "Nationalist" Terror, they have recieved funding, training and personnel from Osama. There are numerous cases of known Al Queda links to Chechyna, members captured in Afghanistan have trained there. It is Muslim Extremist Terrorism, same as in the Mid-East, Phillipines, Australia, etc....
Want some more good news? The fact that this form of Extremism is branching across so many Nationalities makes it extremely ifficult to target any specific ethnic group as likely to have members of AQ and other Factions.
We have seen this in Afghanistan, here at home and elsewhere. Constant vigilance and an overhaul of our Intel Community (Provide them with the means to track and hunt down the bastards) is the only way we will keep ahead of the threat we face.
There is no negotiating with these sick and twisted fanatics, there is no room to relax, there is no room for compromise!
Those who say this is a "Scare Tactic" are delluding themselves and not facing the reality of the situation the World faces today, notice I did not just state the U.S..
As France has found out, even they who have been so willing to comprimise with and even sympathise with Extremist will be targets. For the extremist only believe that their beliefs are correct and anyone else should be forced to submit or die.
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[Paul]

"Ouch Paul, do you have any good news?" {DevilDon}

Hi Don:

To be honest, on this topic, no. None whatsoever.

I could sarcastically point out that Mexico has trade agreements with the People's Republic of China and other Asian nations so that many of those companies that relocated from the US due to NAFTA and were responsible for the brief boom along the border and the exodus of so many Mexicans from the interior have now relocated to Asia. There's widespread unemployment among Mexicans along the border due to the plant closings and layoffs. But in this context, I don't believe that a sane man would call THAT "good news." Hence my point out it would only be sarcasm if I did try to present it that way.

Sorry, I believe that this is a national disgrace and inexcusable.

To be honest, if I saw a 'compassionate' Republican or a 'tough-on-terrorism' Democratic Party career official with some BS nonsense like a "I support our Border Patrol" bumper sticker, then by God, I might just punch the SOB in the mouth (although, then I'd probably wind up being arrested on some charge from the "Patriot Act" with some 'hate crime' charges thrown on top in, no?).
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[Scott]

[Paul]

"The Chechen situattion is not just "Nationalist" Terror, they have recieved funding, training and personnel from Osama. There are numerous cases of known Al Queda links to Chechyna,. . ."

Yes. The Chechens have established links with Al Qaida. So what? It is a nationalist movement that now employs the tactic of terrorism common to such insurgent movements, nationalist, nihilist, Islamic whatever. . .

So do the nationalist separatists Basques in Spain and the sorry little separatist movement in the PRC that was added to the list in 2002.

The Chechens are not our problem.

The US Immigration and Trade Policies and what are being further proposed defy any sense of reason in light of what you write.

Yes. There are also links with Islamic groups in Latin America also. All the less reason for the dismal failure to secure our borders or for the trade and immigration policies being furthered proposed and for the failure to focus the US effort on going after those who have attacked us.

Oceans separate us from the rabble. It is the skilled and highly educated members who threaten us the most and most likely the smallest pool in Al Qaida. The US effort should be focused on hunting them an annihilating them.
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Paul

[Paul]

"No. The charge would be a simple "Assault and Battery."" {Scott}

Hi Scott:

I agree. That's all that the charge rightly should be.
And I'd be rightly punished if guilty of it.
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[rb325th]

Paul you are oversimplifying the issue by saying it is a "Nationalist Movement" and "Not our problem". International Terrorism IS Our Problem.
The fact that AQ funds, trains and participates in the Chechyna Attacks is Our problem as it directly effects the growth of World Wide Terror.
We can not afford to take that Isolationist attitude of "it is happening over ther not here". The connections are real, and those AQ types do not just stay in Chechyna or Saudi, Pakistan, Phillipines, etc... They spread their ideology and Terror Worldwide.
You may prefer to believe that we are somehow safe from the actions in Chechnya, but that is a very narrow way of viewing the situation. One I might add that resulted in the attcks of 9/11 being able to take place. We as a Nation ignored what was happenong "over there" and look what happened.
Never again can we close our eyes to situations outside our borders and say they are someone elses. That attitude allows the situation to spiral out of control and dead and maimed innocent people both here and abroad.
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[RichardP]

We need to get Putin, Blair and President Bush together and ally against the war on terrorism completely.

The Russians can no longer afford to stand against us in the war on terror, it is time for them to get off the pot and join us, along with France and Germany.

Terrorists are the ENTIRE worlds problem, and since we are the ONLY superpower, we need to lead the charge.

Our War on Terror has just gotten us a new ally, and we need to use them to the best of their abilities.

The Russians do NOT mess around, and are NOT PC, we need to use them to the best of our and their ability.

[roughfun]

No France. They should be declared a terrorist state. It was one thing not to agree with us but they very aggressevly tried to hurt our efforts. They are no friend of ours and will one day be overwhelmed by their own internal Muslim population. Sound far fethched? Semper Fi.

[Paul]

[greentracer]

I believe that Dr. Savage of the Savage Nation, Has for years been pointing out the true enemy of this country. "It is the "Enemy Within" or the liberal left that operates specifically to undermine God, country, family, and the military. They use the courts to undermine the popular will."
"The right wing conspiracy supports God, country, family, the military, and has far higher moral standards than the Left."
"The U.S. Justice Department has been using the USA Patriot Act not only to fight terrorists but also to catch child pornographers, drug traffickers, blackmailers, spies, money launderers, and even corrupt foreign leaders. Now, who would argue that any tool that can be used to trap drug traffickers and child pornographers is a bad tool?"
"America is crying for those who will defend her against the Enemy Within."
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[Redleg]

[GaryD]

I advocate securing our borders, defending our nation and focusing our efforts on those who have attacked us for the purpose of annihilating them. In short, on what is mandated in the constitution that we all swore to defend and uphold. Not the unconstitutional, and badly conceived, world's policemen and armed job corps our armed forces are being converted into at the expense of the defense of our own citizens and our own nation.

Paul,
Having read some of your other posts, the paragraph I snatched above says a great deal, and is a large part of what my wife and I have argued with so many over the past couple of years. Unfortunately there are a lot of the masses with their heads up their asses.
Just so you know, I spent a year in the Near East and two in the Far East and four total in the ASA(Army Security Agency) Our work was not only in support of the Viet Nam effort but also to our National Security, which I have recently been informed of through channels is still classified and not released. I have not forgotten the Oath I took, how we were mistreated after being discharged, KERRY'S LYING to Congress and the nightmare he could create with the UN if elected.
The Swift Boat Vets have had the guts and fortitude to launch an assault to prevent another national disaster in my humble opinion, which I truely believe will be a success. This site, by their actions, has not only opened a lot of old wounds but I believe strongly will be a place for them to heal.
It is a well documented fact that almost to a man, we do not talk about that period of time, exact John(did you know I was in Viet Nam)Kerry.
My sincere hope is that after the election we can still keep the Vets united to take on the issues that you have been discussing. It is obvious from reading around the boards here that there is a tremendous amount of intelligence from large numbers of good men and women. We have been too quiet for far too long and have allowed politicians from all sides to sell us down the river.
The Borders, Illegal Aliens, National Security and the UN, I believe need serious attention after the election.
Priorities always seem to confused with Political Correctness. Politics has no damn business in securing the citizens of this country!! Since we the Vets have given in large and small, some more than others and the some the Ultimate Sacrifice, to which we owe them the most. We owe their families and children more so that they can live their lives as our Creator bestowed on all of us.
We can not be the Police of the World nor the Job Corp, as you say, but would like to add a few words.
The THREAT to the United States started a long time ago and long before the 93 bombing of the Trade Center. What has bothered me greatly for over 30 years is that I had told my wife, shortly after we married that there would be a war between us and the radical Islamists in our lifetime.
I was told that that could and would never happen. Well, the actions of the anti-war crowd and the administrations from the 60's on up gave the Extremists all the ammunition they needed. The US remained shell shocked after Viet Nam for a long time, so turn it over to the UN and diplomats. That was one joke after another, The Berlin Olympics, The Marine Barracks, Hostages in Iran, Achille Laurel, etc., and up to the last 10 years. My Blood was boiling after the attack on the USS Cole. The enormous STUPIDITY of that incident goes beyond words. Perhaps my understanding of Security and the Safety of my military comrades must be not up to the times because we had loaded weapons and our perimeters allowed no one to get close enough the do what was done from a RUBBER RAFT!!!! Where was the OUTRAGE over the 17 Sailors who gave their Lives. There wasn't any because too many here are too worried about what freebies they can get out of the never ending TILL of the Gov't., all promised by our Forked Tongue Politicians.
Recently it was in the News Media that the US launched it's first Drone to watch the Border with Mexico for the illegals running accross. Actually they were EMBARASSED into doing this because PRIVATE CITIZENS did it over a year ago with a homemade Video equipped model made with their own funds and were calling in to the Border Patrol with reports of activity!
But it doesn't end near here with the Illegals. It is estimated that 25% of the Prison population are illegal aliens and at $50,000 a year or more to keep them there at OUR EXPENSE is what is criminal.
Mixico is not our friend and is so corrupt it is a documented fact that not only Mexicans are being smuggled over the Border. That is another scarey thought.
Far too many here are dillusional and believe we need the UN and our National Security will be taken care just fine. There is no fiasco in our lifetimes, larger that the non successes of the UN. We have contributed Billions so that Millions could die. That money could have been spent here keeping all of those out who do not belong here. We are the most benevolent Nation on Earth, Thank God. No other country has taken in so many and given so much, but now to what EXPENSE. The wanton murders in the Russian School will still not resonate with most as to what is out there and what they can and will do. Most can not under stand the motives and the mind set that these extremists possess, nor do they know their history, which is fanning the flames towards their goals.
The best estimates are that only 10% of the WORLD'S MUSLIMS are members of these extremist sects of ISLAM. That amounts to give or take, about 1,500,000 that are out there and want to kill you and me and all of our families. Now if this is true, HOW MANY of the 1.5 Mil. are living here in the USA, just waiting for the signal to explode!!! Our Liberal,want to be CIC, John(Flush Me)Kerry, wants to beg for other EU Countries to forgive us and take us back so we can have more dialogue with all and find out WHY THEY DO NOT LIKE US. SCREW THEM.
I'm with you. If you mess with US, hurt one of US or even threaten US, we will find you and insure that you are a Martyr, Burnt Toast. If anyone complains, who cares.
It is so bad in some of OUR Urban Areas that residents are banning together to "Take Back Their Streets". That does need to be done but the picture is much larger and can not be ignored.
Paul, don't loose faith, we are strong although most times I wonder what the hell happened after 9/11. Memories for too many are far to short. We must stay on course, knowing that all Battles are won by concentrating the effort one objective at a time. I believe that if we do not follow this course and demand dramatic changes in Border Control, Immigration Policies, Illegal Expulsion and the removal of the UN, the USA will go down in flames.
As I said in the beginning, God Bless the Swifties for waking so many up from a 35 year sleep. Let all of us help those who need to heal their wounds so we can fall in together, more united than ever before, and
TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Washington needs to know that it can no longer be business as usual. We elected officials to represent US, but that no longer seems to be the reason that they are there. We are the stupid ones for allowing them to continue believing that they are smarter than we are and will always have our best interests in their hearts and souls. Kerry and a lot of his "Brothers" in the Senate have done nothing in over 20 YEARS, except maybe more Social Programs, and wasted money for Foreign Aid and other nonsense. But again, what does that say about us??? We allowed this to continue and they know it!
The saying is, "Once a Soldier, Always a Soldier", and on being discharged, the oath to UPHOLD and DEFEND our Country was not recinded. Therefore I believe that we are still responsible to stand up for what is right and just for our fellow citizens. We are a group of special people but just don't know it. We are from all walks of life, all levels of education, all fields of careers and expertise, and experiances uncountable. WE WERE THE BEST, History can not deny it. Put us all back together so we can insure the USA forever remains the BEST!
NO MORE LIARS/ LAWYERS in Washington DC is a good start.

USASA
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[GatorVet]

I read all of your forum entries and realize that our borders are easily crossed by anyone who wants to do us harm.

On my flight home from San Diego last November the ex-WalMart greeters hired by TSA gave extreme scrutiny to a Marine PFC traveling in uniform, an older woman with a European accent and myself, a Reservist traveling home from Annual Training. None of the three mentioned above look very Middle Eastern. At the same time several Arabic looking people just walked through. It seems like TSA searches the most unlikely travelers to avoid legal action from the ACLU and plump up their stats.

The TSA does a PC job in looking for terrorists at the airports. If LTJG Kerry takes over it can only get worse & more PC. We can't offend ANYONE.

[Rick Schmidt]

The Second Amendment = The Origanal Home Land Security!!!!!!!!!!!