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pigboatman · Seaman Recruit Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 9

Another thing that came out of the story about the victory by the
VC in 1954 and the next war was the generals said they never
would have won the war if it had not been for the Anti-War protestors
of whom Kerry was one. They were going to quit until that happened.

Redleg · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:31 pm Post subject:

As the war progressed, the NVA & remaining VC may have had doubts regarding US firepower and the war of attrishion. The anti-war protesters did somewhat, I believe, act as a fifth column on their behalf to expidite the end of US involvment. The North did see one US President choose not to run for reelection (LBJ) and a tremendous amount of pressure placed on another (Nixon).
In hindsight, the real queation was: Did the forces backing the RVN underestimate the nationalism of the Vietnamese people?
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neverforget · Vice Admiral Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 875

You mean all those streaming from the central highlands where the NVA broke through and all those streaming southward from Da Nang and all those leaving the country when the Communists took over were really nationalists that just happened to run the wrong way? And the NVA "loitering" in Quang Tri after the "peace treaty" were there just to help nationalize South Viet Nam?

Kerry gave Kennedy and others all they needed to justify cutting off support to South Viet Nam. And President Nixon can be given some of the blame for undermining the strength of the presidency with the stupid Watergate stunt.

Hanger · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: American POW's

I purchased the Movie, "THE HANOI HILTON" at Wal-Mart a few weeks ago because it was on sale for $5.99. I recall seeing the movie on television many years ago. I had a chance to watch the movie yesterday and now it the movie, more than ever is relevant to the anti-war actives of John Kerry during the Vietnam War and how the POW's were tortured many times due to the actions of John Kerry, Jane Fonda and their friends in the media.

If you have an opportunity I recommend highly that you see this movie and let others get to see just a glimpse of what the POW's went through while held prisoner by the Communist North Vietnamese.

The video is available from Amazon and other online video stores.

From website: "Shot in the Dark" http://www.shotinthedark.info/

"In 1987, Lionel Chetwynd's excellent Hanoi Hilton received widely-mixed reviews (many of them politically-motivated). Worse, its distributor essentially sat on the movie, under pressure from Hollywood leftists, for its treatment of Jane Fonda. The movie depicted life at North Vietnam's Hoa Lo prison accurately - but it changed the last names of the prisoners, and of their visitors, including Jane Fonda. An actress who represents Fonda ("Paula") does everything Fonda is said to have done while in the Hilton. That was one of several stories that Hollywood didn't want told (that and, of course, the moral of the story; the men survived because of their military training and warrior ethic). "Hanoi Hilton" was buried, received a tiny theatrical release, and is hard to find on video today. (Do it if you can - it's an excellent movie)."
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On the back of the box there is the following endorsement from President Ronald Reagan:

"Every American should see this powerful and moving film as a tribute to our POW's."

President Ronald Reagan

Hanoi Hilton (1987)

Genre(s): POW/MIA, Vietnam War

Cast: Michael Moriarty, Paul LeMat, Jeffrey Jones, Lawrence Pressman, Stephen Davies, David Soul, Rick Fitts, Aki Aleong, Gloria Carlin; DIRECTED BY: Lionel Chetwynd; WRITTEN BY: Lionel Chetwynd. PRODUCER: Cannon Films.

Review: A brutal drama about the sufferings of American POWs in Vietnamese prison camps. Non-stop torture, filth, and degradation.

From Amazon.com website:

Editorial Reviews
Description
A true story about American soldiers interned in North Vietnam during the years 1964 through 1973, and their struggle to survive within the infamous prison complex they dubbed the Hanoi Hilton.

COMMUNISM WAS EVIL, EVIL, EVIL, June 7, 2004
Reviewer: Steven R. Travers (CALIFORNIA) -

One lonely conservative voice has been trying to shout out from the "wilderness" for years. Lionel Chetwynd is a writer/producer who made "The Hanoi Hilton", which actually described the North Vietnamese as the evil torturers they were. The "Hilton" was the moniker given the infamous prison camp where American POW's were kept while Jane Fonda was flirting with our enemies. Liberal film reviewers criticized it. Do not believe them. It is good stuff.

The Hanoi Hilton, January 18, 2004
Reviewer: Thomas A. Silvia (Jackson, TN United States) - See all my reviews

I was in the Air Force during the war and have over 100 combat missions. This is the most accurate presentation of the war that is available. It is a story that needed telling and still needs to be told. It describes the situation of the American prisoners in Vietnam in an accurate and truthful manner. Everyone should see it.

The Hanoi Hilton, April 25, 2001
Reviewer: Marie T. Cei "mcei" (USA) - See all my reviews

This movie shows what terrible hardships these prisoners had to endure. I had the privilege to talk to one of the wives of these heroes and she confirmed a lot of events shown in this movie. Also stated that she was not allowed to even mention that her husband was shot down for six-months. Tell her that this movie was "too long and over emotional"!! Most Americans just did not want to face reality during this sad time in our Country's history. I was there during 1966-1968 and in Saigon 1970. --This text refers to the VHS Tape edition

Internet Movie Database
User Comments:

Cyborg3k
Galveston, TX

Date: 14 March 2000
Summary: The Libs Hate This One

While this doesn't have the action of 'Rambo' or the surrealism of 'Apocalypse Now', or 'Full Metal Jacket', it does hit dead-on as the most realistic of the Vietnam movies yet.

Most especially, it accurately contrasts the quiet heroism of the POWs with the hypocrisy of the Hollywood Left, and their comrades in the news media; so much in fact, that it is really pretty amazing this film ever got made at all.

Hollywood hated this film. You can see a typical Hollywierdo review of this movie, where it is referred to as "Right-wing ********." Go to: http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/80saction/hanoihilton.html
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LewWaters · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:36 pm Post subject:

If there was ever any doubt about how much the anti-war left contributed to the eventual fall of Saigon, look at the words of those who led it from the North. From an interview of Bui Tin which appeared in the Wall Street Journal, Thursday August 3, 1995;