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theflickster · Ensign Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 68 Location: Colorado

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E29079%257E2358519,00.html

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"Yeah, I know you know the story by heart – but it bears repeating:

Fact: John Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam.

Fact: Kerry killed and wounded other men – “the enemy” (who were simply fighting for their country), because that’s what Uncle Sam wanted him to do.

Fact: Kerry was wounded in combat three separate times on three separate dates.

Fact: Kerry saved the life of Green Beret Jim Rassman by retrieving him out of a river in the Mekong Delta under fire.

Fact: Kerry was honored by his government with three Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star his actions during the war.

Fact: Kerry didn’t manufacture his fancy medal and ribbons – the U.S. military followed its own protocols, investigated the incidents, and awarded them to him.

Fact: The men who actually served on Kerry’s swiftboat support both Jim Rassman’s account and the Navy’s official accounts of Kerry’s war time actions.

Fact: not one of the veterans now sliming Kerry actually served on Kerry’s swift boat.

Fact: Several of these cesspool vets previously praised Kerry’s wartime bravery, and approved of the medals he was awarded.

Were they lying then, or are they lying now?

This isn’t about so-called 527 political ads – all attack ads are not alike.

It’s about trashing the war record of a political opponent with lies that have been thoroughly disproved by the Navy’s own records and the fact-checking of numerous national newspaper reporters. "
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"Likewise, most of TV and cable’s wussy-mouthed baby-boomer anchors never fought or bothered to put on a uniform: CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, MSNBC’s Chris Mathews and Pat Buchanan (!), NBC’s Tim Russert, FOX’s Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity. But they’ve been giving hours and hours of free and often unchallenged media time to a pack of Republican (Yes, for Christ sakes – they’re Republicans!) veterans with scores to settle and an election to win. Like any of these “news” men and punditcrats knows what it’s like to point a gun at an “enemy,” to be in a firefight, to see a buddy – or an enemy - blown to bits in front of him, to have a bullet or shrapnel rip into their bodies, to kill a child they thought had a gun or a bomb. "
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Chuck54 · PO1 Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 466

Why do Kerry talking points bear repeating? All of his talking points have been debunked several times in this forum.
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theflickster · Ensign Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 68 Location: Colorado

Agreed... They have been debunked in this forum and in this forum one is preaching to the choir... but have they been debunked in the media? (and the many who read/listen to the media but aren't on this forum... isn't that who needs to hear the truth?)

I fully believe the more the msm hears from those who don't believe that it has been proven by the media, the more the media has to denounce their statements.

I write a lot of letters... including to the nimrod that wrote this article.
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neverforget · Vice Admiral Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 875

This "lady" aren't one. Nor is she very smart.

baldeagl · PO3 Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 260 Location: Texas

I registered for their board and posted a point by point response to her "facts". Based on a brief reading of the board, it doesn't look like there will be any response to it, but you never know.

She called the Swiftvets "cesspool vets", btw. Several times. Very nasty lady.
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zinfella · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject:

BuffaloJack · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject:

I would interpret cesspool vets to mean that we get down and do the job no matter how much s^^t we have to slog through. Remember the "Dirty Dozen"?

jataylor11 · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:23 pm Post subject:

FACT: This woman is living on the liberal plantation and doesn't realize she's still a slave.

I think I will have to respond to his tripe.

zinfella · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject:

msindependent · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 7:13 pm Post subject:

Another example of how this battle is not over. Write creeps like this, put bumber stickers on your cars, picket and protest, talk to your co workers, send money to the swiftvets even if it's $5. In other words, man your battle stations.

baldeagl · PO3 Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 260 Location: Texas

Here's my entire response to her article. I did not address anything in her article except her "facts".

zinfella · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject:

You were kinder to her than I was Baldeagle. She threw a punch, I hit back. After all, she set the tone with her article. I doubt that she will respond to me, much less post my reply to her BS, but I feel much better about it anyway. I'm not real good about turning the other cheek. Very Happy

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