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Mary Ann Parker
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 Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:34 pm Post subject: A Kerry Site ALREADY Organized w/A SWIFTEE Reference!!Yes!! |
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I have found this site to be comprehensive in toto. Obviously it has sources that have a pro-Kerry bias.
However, Swiftees are referenced vis a vis John O'Neill's book!!
This seems to be a good place to consult as far as a consolidation of information and then verify/debunk specific points of contention with, and including the various source sites that are cited within the very large article.
Our posts and the replies seem to be effective in clearing up the ambiguity of some of the misinformation that is genrated by and about Kerry.
Please add/modify/verify/etc, where appropriate.
Given the time constraints we will have to focus in order to post an accurate and comprehensive summary/commentary soon.
It can be done!
A heartfelt thanks to all who contribute.
Make it a great day!
Mary Ann Parker
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jalexson
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Location: Hutchinson, Kansas
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What do you know a new version of the silver star incident.
[quote/]When Kerry heard that another Swift boat had been ambushed, he and his crew rushed to assist them. Kerry’s boat came under fire from several Viet Cong B-40 rockets, with one hitting and shattering the crew cabin windows.{/quote]
I wonder if this is the version sent in the recommendation for the silver star. Of course there is a problem if all 3 boats were together until Kerry left with one other boat, where did the 4th boat come from that was ambushed?
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Me#1You#10
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I've been intrigued by this "Wikipedia" concept for some time now but don't understand how it works. Do you have a link that explains the process?
I assume you post suggested revisions to content, but who reviews those inputs and what are the politics of the webmaster?
I have better things to do with my time than waste it with the likes of a factcheck.org clone. Is wikipedia non-partisan? |
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jrsdad
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| Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| jalexson wrote: | What do you know a new version of the silver star incident.
| Quote: | | When Kerry heard that another Swift boat had been ambushed, he and his crew rushed to assist them. Kerry’s boat came under fire from several Viet Cong B-40 rockets, with one hitting and shattering the crew cabin windows. |
I wonder if this is the version sent in the recommendation for the silver star. Of course there is a problem if all 3 boats were together until Kerry left with one other boat, where did the 4th boat come from that was ambushed? |
This is the version touted by Hurley when he is asked on talk shows. He always has the damage report on PCF-94 from 14 March, which he says proves they were receiving fire. Unfortunately, ToD explains that this damage was from a 12 March ambush (it is variously called 11 March and 12 March in ToD) on p. 301-302. Whenever O'Neill is there he smacks him down on that. Unfortunately, many talking heads don't understand it even then. |
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TXBear
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Not only that but they can't agree on what Rassmann was doing
| Quote: | Bronze Star and third Purple Heart
On March 13, Kerry's boat hit a mine while cruising the Bay Hap River. Army Lt. James Rassmann, a Green Beret who was sitting on the deck of the pilothouse eating a chocolate chip cookie, was knocked overboard as Kerry's arm was hit. Just afterwards, the boat came under attack from sniper fire on both sides of the bank. |
I guess the cookie replaced the M-60 |
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ASPB
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I refer you to the new "medal evaluation" thread I posted.
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jrsdad
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| TXBear wrote: | | I guess the cookie replaced the M-60 |
He was chewing on the M-60 on the pilothouse... |
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