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drjohn Senior Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:25 pm Post subject: Where in the world is Jim Rassman? |
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28 Jan 1998, John Kerry in the Congressional Record: “There was the time we were carrying Special Forces up a river and a mine exploded under our boat sending it 2 feet into the air. …the boat made a high speed turn to starboard and the Green Beret kept going--straight into the river.” (This would be PCF 94)
Johnkerry.com 17 Jan 2004: "On March 13, 1969, Rassman, a Green Beret, was traveling down the Bay Hap river in a boat behind Kerry’s when both were ambushed by exploding land mines and enemy fire coming from the shore. Kerry was hit in the arm, while a mine blew Rassman’s boat out of the water." (This would be PCF 43)
Douglas Brinkley, Atlantic Monthly 10 Mar 2004: "For example, when talking about the day Kerry charged up the river to save Army Lieutenant Jim Rassman who had been blown off a neighboring Swift boat by an explosion.." (Uncertain which boat- in Brinkley's book it is PCF 35)
LA Times 5 Jul 2004 : "A blast rocked PCF-94, pitching Kerry against the bulkhead and wrenching his arm. Another charge blew Army Lt. James Rassman into the river from another boat." (Uncertain which boat)
5 Aug 2004 James Rassman on CNN Inside Politics:: "Well, first, I was not part of John Kerry's command. I was a Special Forces officer who happened to be on his boat at that time.
Mr. Thurlow's recollection of what occurred is not accurate. We had the boat hit the mine to our left. And John immediately had his driver, Del Sandusky , turn to the left and head towards it.
And it was at that time that our gunner on the bow got his gun knocked out and he started screaming for another weapon. I ran another weapon up to me, and we hit something or something hit us. There was an explosion, and I was blown off the boat to the right. " (PCF 94)
8 Aug 2004 Aaron Brown of CNN: BROWN: “And that's what they were doing on the 13th of March, 1969, as one of four other boats in their convoy struck a mine. The battle was joined. And when Kerry directed Sandusky to make a sharp turn, a special forces soldier riding with them fell in the water.” (PCF 94)
10 Aug 2004 James Rassman OpinionJournal.com: “The second blast blew me off John's swift boat, PCF-94, throwing me into the river.”
“The flotilla… was cruising along a narrow canal, with Kerry’s boat toward the front, when a mine detonated, throwing one of the crafts two feet into the air and knocking out its engine. In the Swift boat behind it, Rassman was eating a chocolate chip cookie in the pilothouse when his craft was rocked by an explosion. Before he knew it, Rassman was thrown into the water…” Kranish et al, John F. Kerry, 2004 (PCF 23)
Question- how did Rassman get thrown into the river from the wheelhouse?
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RMalloy PO3
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, what happened to Rassman? And Hurley, the head of Kerry's
Dog Hunters? |
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ord33 Rear Admiral
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hammer2 PO2
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 387 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like the "Band of Brothers" has gone A.W.O.L.
rats deserting the sinking ship! _________________ "The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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neverforget Vice Admiral
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I believe their plan now is to simply not respond, but to have their media friends and campaign spokesmen repeat over and over, "It's all lies and SwiftVets are liars, all investigations have shown so." |
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sevry Commander
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hammer2 wrote: | Looks like the "Band of Brothers" has gone A.W.O.L.
rats deserting the sinking ship! |
Not even that. The Clinton team, with Snakehead, are not going to want the old Kerry strategy of having his 'brah band' stand behind him on stage. Sandusky and Thorsen have been in on this deal for YEARS. And Sandusky's accounts of 13 MAR are as incredible as Rassman's, or Kerry's. The question might be how the new Clinton team pushes out Mary Beth and the other screamers, and if they anger Sandusky, say, into telling the real story. Problem is, these Dog Chasers are probably so wrapped up in the web of tales and fictions, that they may literally have talked themselves out of an accurate recollection of what happened. Assuming Rassman ever knew, he might be the same way. And Kerry, forget it. Maybe Thorsen still has memories. Maybe those two LTs who just signed with Kerry might still know something? Maybe Lambert will come right out and say he's not sure, or that there was no return fire on 13 MAR. Have to see. |
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Hammer2 PO2
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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My thought is that the more they are forced to speak in public, the more they damage their own credibility.
The question is: Are they being kept out of sight, or are they refusing to participate any further than they already have?
Many people will participate in a fraud if they think there is a good reward for little pain, ie:Anita Hill. But when doing so causes them great public embarassment and criticism they quickly run for cover. _________________ "The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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drjohn Senior Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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That refers to Alston, not Rassman |
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ASPB Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Go here if you want to discuss Alston: http://idexer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14 _________________ On Sale! Order in lots of 100 now at velero@rcn.com Free for the cost of shipping All profits (if any, especially now) go to Swiftvets. The author of "Sink Kerry Swiftly" ---ASPB |
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rua Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Where in the world is Jim Rassman? |
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>Question- how did Rassman get thrown into the river from the wheelhouse?<
Perhaps he is JR the flying man? Goes right along with VC the flying dog. |
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ASPB Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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The same way shrapnel got into the Pilot house and hit Kerry in the ass without hitting anyone else or damaging the boat. He didn't and it didn't. _________________ On Sale! Order in lots of 100 now at velero@rcn.com Free for the cost of shipping All profits (if any, especially now) go to Swiftvets. The author of "Sink Kerry Swiftly" ---ASPB |
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drjohn Senior Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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The one thing that everyone seems to agree on is that Rassman was eating a chocolate chip cookie.
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dfountain3928 Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Just occured to me, Rassman claims to have been on both Kerrys boat and the boat that actually hit the mine, ( I believe it was the 23 Boat?) and we don't seem to actually have an honest answer as to whose boat he really was on. Well, what about the other survivors, whose boat do they say Rassman was really was on?? Someone must have a memory of this other then Kerry and Rassman. Was Rassman actually there at all, or is this just another figment of an over active childlike imagination like Kerrys??? |
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Paul Woll Lt.Jg.
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see how anyone can take him as a credible eye-witness when he doesn't even know what boat he was on before he entered the water. |
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ASPB Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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PCF-3 hit the mine. He's put himself on PCF-3, PCF-43, and PCF-94 on different occasions. _________________ On Sale! Order in lots of 100 now at velero@rcn.com Free for the cost of shipping All profits (if any, especially now) go to Swiftvets. The author of "Sink Kerry Swiftly" ---ASPB |
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