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integritycounts Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 667
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:21 am Post subject: Swift Vets should be prepared for a Carville Type Onslaught |
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The first thing Kerry's new crew is going to try to respond to the Swift-Vets in some manner that negates everything....and allows them to not talk about it anymore.
Without Kerry being honest, which is not expected, I just don't know how or what this will look like. But they have to do it, or rather, they have to attempt it.
I believe its important to start talking about the September 12 rally as soon as possible. Its important to talk about it, so as the Media can not just dismiss it.
While the current state of shambles of the Kerry campaign is amazing....this is not time to let up at all. History has show that Candidates in shambles have road out the storms and been able to succeed.
This after all has been Kerrys plan from day one for the Swift Vets, he thought he could ride it out....ride it out to the next media news cycle.
I think O'Neill should challenge O'reilly, because O'reilly beliefs are because he does not want to deal with the entire issue.
I would love to see O'Neill say to O'reilly " I understand Bill that you have personal issues talking about Kerry's conduct in Vietnam, after all you were not there, I understand your issues, but I would simply ask you that you allow Veterans who were peers and contemporaries in the service to address these matters directly with Senator Kerry. The media has failed Vietnam Veterans in the past Bill, and I don't expect you to make up for all of them, but I do ask you help us get a response to the issues we have raised with a man who may become the President of the USA. A man we know who has lied, and may be willing to lie again, and in office. Bill will you help us get some answers?"
That said....I have never seen O'Neill do anything that was anything but brilliant when he is interviewed. |
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Hammer2 PO2
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 387 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Oh, I would expect it to be something like:
They are a bunch of Alcoholic, Philandering, Wife Beating, Pedophile, Trailer Trash, Liars and Thieves, cowards and deserters, who are all well known Republican operatives in league with Richard Mellon Scaife. These are the same scoundrels behind the 8 year smear campaign against our beloved president Clinton and now they are using their vicious Hitler Brownshirt tactics against John Kerry. We have 500 witnesses who will come forth and prove everything I, corporal Q-Ball Carville am saying.
It is just ridiculous that any sane human being would even listen to their pack of vicious lies.
I think that's abought the tone we can expect. _________________ "The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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greasepaint Seaman
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 177 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:45 am Post subject: |
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(mainsteam media)
Keep in mind, their basic tactic -->
They present as a fact, something, that is really only
a claim from Kerry. |
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WebTalk Lt.Jg.
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 147
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:54 am Post subject: |
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I saw Carville on Russert's show Sunday.
He admitted the campaign was in trouble and promissed they'd put it behind them and be back on their game in three days.
He's counting on the SBVT issue going away it seems...and we know that isn't going to happen.
I agree there's a sh*t storm heading our way. ( I'm on your side, as a supporter) _________________ America voted for solid LEADERSHIP and gave "W" a mandate to carry on.
God Blessed America! Again! |
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rparrott21 Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 760 Location: Mckinney, Texas
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Kerry is hiding behind his people, not doing interviews,,keep calling him out... |
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Tad Belknap Seaman Recruit
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 49 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:18 am Post subject: |
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I don't think you'll ever hear a democratic mouthpiece ever ever mention the words Swiftboat or Vietnam ever again before 2 November ! _________________ 27th M.A.S.H. Chu Lai
95th Evac. Hosp. Danang
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Beatrice1000 Resource Specialist
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 1179 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Swift Vets should be prepared for a Carville Type Onslau |
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integritycounts wrote: | ..I believe its important to start talking about the September 12 rally as soon as possible. Its important to talk about it, so as the Media can not just dismiss it... |
I've emailed a lot of them to remind them about it - and c-span requesting them to cover it, etc., and I agree, we should keep getting that message out there. I am assuming that the kerry people have been working feverishly to put together their "counter-rally" (& I don't expect them to be decent in any way..) and to try and take the spotlight away from what I am hoping will be a large show of force of veterans against kerry!! |
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Doc Farmer LCDR
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 442 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I can't think of Carville without thinking of the Family Guy episode he was lampooned in...
"OH, GOD, Geez...did somebody open the Ark of the Covenant? I mean, I've seen ugly before, but he's like...circus ugly." _________________
Fat, Bald and Ugly - And PROUD Of It! |
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Mooncusser Lieutenant
Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 245 Location: Missouri
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Fire Marshal Carville...................Jeckyl and Hyde ! _________________ MACV '64...65
Thu Thua, Long An
I actually won the election before I lost it.
"It is a good day to fight! It is a good day to die! Strong hearts, brave hearts to the front! Weak hearts and cowards to the rear!" (Crazy Horse) |
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drjohn Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 550 Location: CT
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Brace yourselves for Carville. This is going to be rough ride. He is going to call the Swifties every possible name imaginable. Liars, cheats, dishonest, evil, etc. ("Never saw anything like this is mah LIFE!")
Begala will attack in a folksy manner and stab you in the back but Carville will is a pit bull and try to eat your face off.
Someone ought to be putting a PI on him right now and start taking pictures.
You cannot engage him head on when it comes to issues. Issues are the last thing he is going to allow. He throws out canard after canard. You have to take an oblique route to his testicles. You have to get him off balance. Remind him of how wrong he has been and how he helped Gore lose. Make him mad about something else. Stick him personally, because he will make it personal. |
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