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NortonPete PO2
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:03 pm Post subject: Kerry's mysterious hospital visit to wounded Vets. |
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The is from http://slingsnarrows.erudite-absurdity.com/archive/002433.html
This is over a comment Kerry made last week during his "Midnight speech"
An excerpt >>>
watched Fox well into the night following last night’s acceptance speech and convention closing. At a certain point Fox played a bit from Kerry’s Springfield Ohio speech. I distinctly heard him refer to his recent visits to hospitals to see and talk to wounded veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan. It seemed off the cuff and a direct rebuttal to the best parts of Bush’s speech where the Pres got emotional (and I got emotional with him).
Something about Kerry’s ‘hospitals’ comment struck me as contrived. At first it was, naw, even he wouldn’t politicize that. Then I wondered why I hadn’t heard about this before, neither from his good-news starved staff nor from the biased MSM. Perhaps he does have some class and has chosen not to publicize these visits just as W does it in a very low key and respectful manner. Hunh?! This is John F. Kerry. Exploiting our folks in uniform for political gain is something he learned a long time ago -- and has practiced with impunity ever since.
So then I tried to picture the event. Kinda like Kerry at the VFW or Kerry at the American Legion, or God help us, Kerry at a US messhall in Iraq. It just wouldn’t go down well. Some soldier or Marine would not play the part for him. It struck me, it strikes me, that he made it up. Not even he would be stupid enough to be confronted by a wounded warrior angry at his presence. <<<<<
More on this at the above location |
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cipher Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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I think Kerry is stealing honor again.
It was Rassmann that visited the VA hospital in Iowa a month ago, not Kerry.
http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040819/NEWS01/408190325/1079
There is NO mention in the last month or so of news that Kerry EVER did so much as drive by a VA hospital.
He's so delusional. Someone really needs to check his meds. _________________ USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
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ArmyWife Lieutenant
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 218
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well, there is film of Kerry visiting the West Wing of that hospital where he was born. Maybe he saw some patients there.
Otherwise, I haven't seen any reports of visits to hospitals, either. Just out of curiousity, I queried Google news and didn't find any stories. He probably has visited hospitals on the campaign trail, though. It would be easy to, and he could go through there and shake some hands pretty quickly without talking to the patients very much. |
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4th ID Vet Seaman Recruit
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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From the link to the Iowa City Press-Citizen I just read, Rassmann ACTUALLY NEVER visited any vets in the VA Hospital....just took a tour of the buildings.
http://www.press-citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040819/NEWS01/408190325/1079
Seems that the headline "Former Green Beret visits VA to back Kerry" is a bit of the usual play on words/spin from Kerry.
"If ya can't dazzle them with brillance, baffle them with Bulls**t" _________________ 4th Inf Div 2/35th (grunt) 69/70
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Marquis Lt.Jg.
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Kerry is pathetic! I hope that the Bush campaign directors are taking note of Kerry's reaction to anything that W says, or does, that he wishes that he had said or done. Kerry is easily "baited", and easily lead into a lie or falsehood. What a POS! |
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EODARMY Seaman
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 168
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:57 pm Post subject: ArmyWife |
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ArmyWife: Fitzsimmons Army Medical Center was closed in 1999 as a military hospital. That would be quite a story, Kerry visiting the wounded at Fitzsimmoms! I do hope that we can find no info on Kerry visting the military wounded! |
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rb325th Admiral
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 1334
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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In the past few years since 9/11 there have been some high profile visitors to places like Walter Reed, Bethesda, and other Hospitals. There have been some low profile visits of Higher Ranking Officials also, not one single report in the past 3 years of JFnKerry once visiting the Troops in a Hospital, Military Base or Theatre of Operations. Heck even Hillary went to Iraq and visited the Hospitals!!
Kerry is a fool to make such bogus claims! _________________ U.S. Army 1983-1995, 11C1P/11H2P NBTDT |
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zinfella Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 708 Location: Mesa, Az
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Kerry's mysterious hospital visit to wounded Vets. |
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NortonPete wrote: | It seemed off the cuff and a direct rebuttal to the best parts of Bush’s speech where the Pres got emotional (and I got emotional with him). |
You're not the only one Pete, that weather was in force around here also. And I suspect it was the same in a great many homes. Nobody has to tell anyone that Dubya was being honest about his feelings, it was impossible to cover up. Contrast that with John F-ing Kerry, who doesn't have the ability to be honest, and that shows too. Kerry only breeds contempt. _________________ No whiners! |
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bubba138 Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject: Hospital Visit Resolved |
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This issue has been resolved.
Kerry did visit the FORMER VA hospital in which he was born (Aurora, CO), but that entire base was closed down in 1999 so there are no vets being treated there: [url]http://slingsnarrows.erudite-absurdity.com/archive/002439.html[/url]
Kerry did visit friend, supporter and former Joint Chief of Staff John Shalikashvili in a military hospitial in Fort Lewis, Washington. This hospital currently treats vets from both Iraq and Afghanistan. No specific mention of Kerry visiting a vet is made, however it is safe to assume he talked to at least one: [url]http://slingsnarrows.erudite-absurdity.com/archive/002441.html[/url] |
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GoophyDog PO1
Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 480 Location: Washington - The Evergreen State
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't it just be a kick in the pants that the very hospital he was born in, was one closed because he voted against funding? (lmao) _________________ Why ask? Because it needs asking. |
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rb325th Admiral
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 1334
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Resolved? How do you figure? He visited a retired General who had a stroke. There is nothing there but conjecture on your part or anyone elses. We are not talking campaign stops here. Show me an instance where Kerry Post 9/11 has visited a Miltiary Hospital to spend time with wounded Soldiers. Show me an instance where he visited a VA Hospital.
Oh and make it prior to his becoming the lead Democrat. Case not closed is it? _________________ U.S. Army 1983-1995, 11C1P/11H2P NBTDT |
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buffman LCDR
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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If he were to visit, he sure would have it covered by the media, it would be a big play. _________________ Never Ever Give Up
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bubba138 Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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I am not so sure that if Kerry had visited a vet the media would have covered it. Remember the episode at Wendy's? The Marines he met there did not exactly warm up to him. I can easily envision a similar situation in the hospital that the media would not feel was "news-worthy" |
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rb325th Admiral
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Stop apologising for and making excuses for kerry, if he felt anything for those guys and gals he would have been off to Walter Reed a long time ago before he was running. He hasn't and doesn't care. All he cares about is his image and how good he looks on T.V.
The fact that he has not, speaks volumes, the fact that he never made a trip to a U.S. Base overseas since 9/11 speaks volumes.
Kerry can spew all he wants about his Vietnam Service, but what has he done for U.S. Llately?!? _________________ U.S. Army 1983-1995, 11C1P/11H2P NBTDT |
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bubba138 Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Who is apologizing for Kerry? Certainly not I. All I am saying is there is no way we can prove he did not visit any Iraq or Afghanistan vets.
Kerry has so many hard and fast weaknesses and falsehoods it is better to concentrate on what is easily demonstratable and not waste time on the iffy issues. This is an iffy issue. |
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